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and I think we're live it's Friday again

which means time for another livestream

today it's gonna actually be a pretty

fun one I'm just gonna go ahead and my

Wi-Fi why is this off so you guys might

remember dr. Zaber maker of the original

century this like super small basically

console sized case that was able to hold

a shockingly powerful system inside it

and they actually reached out to us just

kind of randomly what about a week ago

or something like that Jake does that

sound right I think it was about a week

or two ago anyway they're following it

up with a century 2.0 and we figured

yeah be a lot of fun for us to do a

build in it so we actually posted a poll

on YouTube for members only like channel

members and asked them if we should do

our build in the like classical gray

version of the chassis or if we should

use the black one instead and they said

to go with the black one I have my

doubts though because I think a lot of

them thought it was Silver's based on

the picture but actually it's got this

delightfully kind of retro gray computer

look to it that I personally really like

and no we're just doing the black all

right can you take those can take the

gray one there all right thank you

never mind we're just gonna do the gray

one also what is this DHL thing I have

no idea Oh new o-rings all right so I

have not looked at this at all I am

going in completely cold here and I'm

gonna do my best to do a super sweet

super small build that is extra powerful

so in terms of hardware we're going with

an 8700 K because that's what we had

lying around all of our ninety seven

hundred and ninety nine hundred KS are

presumably ocupado right now and then

we're going with a Titan RT X for our

graphics card we're gonna see if this

thing can handle it and then oh wow they

have stepped up their packaging game

quite a lot that is pretty cool so they

still include this little stand if you

want to set it up vertically I wonder if

they've also improved the rubber feet

here they still come off but it would be

hard for it to happen by accident now

which is nice and oh they're uh they're

kind of a harder rubber so they don't

like kind of grip too much and come off

there either actually they seem quite

they seem quite a lot better okay it's

almost like they've had a couple of

years to uh to refine their design

they're you know cool alright so now

what else we got in here

they include a screwdriver oh well it's

torques the security torques do you

really need security Torx screws to put

your computer together all right we've

got a PCI Express 16 X riser we've got a

PCI Express 16 X extender so presumably

we are going to both rise and extend a

little something like that I don't know

which cameras should be holding this up

to but whatever there you go else we got

here hey this is almost like doing an

unboxing isn't it it's fun I'm having

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we've gone

our power button here which I get to

install myself this build is gonna take

a little while that much is already

clear well if the wind shows late you

guys will know why we've got looks like

a little reinforcement bracket doodad

these guys are a really small company so

everything that they're doing is just

like powder coated steel like there's no

kind of you know fancy tempered glass or

anything like that but personally I have

an appreciation for just the the

industrial industrial nough Sun it looks

to me okay to me not everyone's gonna

like it but it looks to me really clean

and I'm actually a pretty big fan so I'm

gonna put those there and hopefully not

drop them I'm gonna put these here and

I'm going to worry that I actually don't

see any instructions so they did a

really good job of safely packaging

everything but these kinds of cases

generally are a little bit more on the

complicated side to put together and I

guess I'm just gonna be guessing here oh

thank you Jake that is so nice see to

all you people who were saying that he

was useless and annoying and obnoxious

and loud and his voice socks and his

hair socks and oh my voice sorry sorry

okay so that I got one wrong so to all

of you people who were saying all of

those things

shame on you he clearly has his uses who

else would have brought me this magnetic

parts tray I'm just kidding you guys got

it understand like Jake does all kinds

of stuff around here that you probably

wouldn't expect I mean we needed like

something altered for our security for

the building and he was like custom

fabbing up a thing and he's actually

very very a very important member of the

team anyone who still works here is a

very important member of the team

because they weren't they wouldn't

that's kind of that's how business works

it's business time you know all right so

there's our top it looks like they are

still doing this apparently in

original this was for thermal reasons

but it's like do you have a way of

indicating to me what angle we're

working with here Jake or David if you

cuz if you can like throw something at

David so he knows he doesn't have to

hold still and like maintain focus then

it would be really nice for him he's

walking away he's just leaving he's done

he's gone he's gone

so they said that this here is for like

thermal reasons or like air flow reasons

it's to keep from having like a dead

zone here where warm air just kind of

sits there I don't know that I was ever

super convinced but that was that

important but apparently it made it into

rev too so they're they're sticking with

their story and then Wow other than that

it's just it's just empty so our

graphics card is gonna go right about

yeah and our motherboard is gonna go

about yeah it looks like they've moved

the power supply since last time I want

to say I even I'm not even sure where

that goes right now and all right that's

just that's just coming off so that's a

thing ah yeah I do I do actually wish

they had some some documentation

included in the box but you know what

we're going for it we are we are

straight yoloing it and newest manual on

their website it says on the side

apparently of the box all right well I

will I will go I will probably end up

having to look at that because this is a

bit complicated first why don't we go

ahead and do the things that we can do

so we got our motherboard

got our CPU just check my positioning

here take what angle are we on yeah yeah

okay Sabre comm Weber comm dot PL slash

century all right all right okay all

right I could have read the box all

right all right

rubbing it in I swear he has redeeming

qualities you guys I swear I swear it's

true it's true story

heard it from a friend of a friend of

mine okay who was it it was Jake no he's

he's the one spreading all the

propaganda all right we're gonna go with

Noctua for our cooler today

super simple cooler to install I

actually love this thing what's the l9 I

all right love it now it's not the

highest performance cooler on the Block

by any stretch of the imagination but

it's just for simple screws that bolt

through from the back and it does a

pretty good job for its size although I

wouldn't expect to be overclocking this

8700 K at all I would expect to get you

know pretty much close to full turbo but

maybe not even that it's gonna come down

really to our graphics card anyway

though we're gonna do some maybe do some

4k gaming something like that all right

so we're gonna check orientation here go

ahead and plug this into our CPU fan

header are you going to switch to the

overhead at any point Jake yeah I'm

building the computer look guys I I

swear I swear he he's she's really good

he's really good at the things that he

does that are good did you grab that m

dot too by the way Jack ooh did you grab

that m dot - from upstairs oh no are we

not doing that anymore okay

this one has games on it now you didn't

do it did you can you grab the end dot -

look guys I swear I swear he's the best

part is like oops the best part is like

Jake's parents watch our videos

sometimes like especially if he's in

them or like helping run them or

whatever else it's great so they

definitely read the comments

man honestly I wish more coolers

installed like this I understand why

with some of the bulky ones it doesn't

necessarily make a ton of sense because

then you're you've got like this

gigantic power on the other side of the

motherboard that you're you know trying

to put down or whatever like it yeah I

understand the challenges but like that

is so quick it's so clean it's awesome

now I'm just gonna grab my I love ITX

boards just something about the density

just gets me excited cuz you know when I

first got into PC building like you

wanted a high-performance system it was

in like some gigantic friggin Tower it

sounded like a hairdryer and now there's

just so much performance on this tiny

little form factor

you got your eight pin power for these

high-performance CPUs you got your USB

3.1 gen2 connector for your fancy USB 3

front panels you've got a regular USB

3.0 clasp like style connector

you've got four SATA you've got PCIe 16x

you've got two m dot 2 s one on the

front one on the back they've taken to

putting em got two slots on the back of

your motherboard now which is madness I

don't know it's just it's just awesome

hey Jake do you know if this board

support no I bet it doesn't this is a z3

70 but they've even got those new dims

now that's are up to 16 gigs unbuffered

for like small form-factor systems like

this hey Jake I had put my iFixit kit

here do you know what happened to it

oh you cleared it from the table yeah

it's still in top down you could just

like switch whenever I mean you know

we've got a live operator just you know

well no don't make a loud noise I just

mean I don't know just just like switch

between them you know just you know for

fun you know to make it dynamic you know

we're switching all right

all right okay well then then just

change the top down all right I think we

really need to do a video exploring

these uh these MDOT two heat sinks just

cause like I know that I know that other

people have looked into them but there's

so many different types of them out

there but I do wonder if you know some

of them work better than others if they

just all completely don't work at all

like I've seen some pretty crazy stuff I

think it's a gigabyte I want to say it's

either gigabyte or MSI one of them with

one of their boards must have an MSI

actually included this like GPU frickin

sized thing with this giant cooler on it

that was a quad MDOT two PCI Express 16x

card and I'm just like I look at

something like that and I go like is

there a performance advantage here why

are we doing this I got to know I got to

imagine that just kind of putting a hunk

of metal on top of it like this one that

doesn't dramatically increase the

surface area I got to imagine that

probably doesn't help much but you gotta

remember to there's different kinds of

like thermal solutions there's the kind

that's designed to dissipate heat which

if you have a giant molten like many

finned heat sink like this that's

obviously that kind and then you've got

the kind that's just designed to absorb

heat where if you had like a bursty load

for example where all of a sudden you're

you're writing a bunch of data to it and

then five minutes later it's over this

heatsink could help absorb that extra

heat and then dissipate it later once

the drive activity slows down a little

bit so it could help us kind of like a

heat buffer even if it doesn't increase

thermal dissipation a whole heck of a

lot so I don't know it seems like it's

kind of a complicated thing to try to

properly answer so I don't know how we

would develop a test that would

get all these different scenarios but

you know part of me wants to say well

all the manufacturers keep they keep

putting these you know heat sinks on

them so there must be a reason but then

we've seen stuff that they do like

putting cooling back plates on the back

of graphics cards that don't actually do

anything so hey Jake where did you get

this motherboard from oh okay

it doesn't have an i/o shield okay so

that's a little unfortunate it is B 3388

and it does not have an i/o shield you

might just have to live without the i/o

shield here folks because I don't think

we're going to be able to this is this

is the beauty of life you know this is

what's beautiful about live no I oh

she'll look at that is that beautiful or

what I'm gonna go with and or what yeah

I puked a little too I'm sorry you guys

that's okay I'm over it now all right so

I'm not gonna be using my Phillips head

screwdriver to install my motherboard

instead I will be using security Torx

what is up with that you guys that's so

weird

dr. Zaber yeah you just I just don't get

it I'm not gonna put in too many screws

here though cuz right now I'm just kind

of mapping out where things go I suspect

I still have a fair number of things to

install for the case itself like for

example this so we got to put our power

connector in oh oh that's funny I kind

of accidentally did that right I guess

because it looks like before I can even

put this in I'm going to have to put in

that motherboard screw because I'm not

actually gonna be able to can you switch

to overhead you gotta be dead can you

pay attention please

thank you oh this is actually really

complicated so when this isn't here you

can't really get at the bottom of the

back thing or with the motherboard in

you can't really get at the bottom of

the back like right in there and then

with this in you can't really get at

this motherboard screw so that's kind of

the challenge of these hyper compact

systems I guess interesting well one

thing I know we need for sure oh this is

a Phillips head oh lordy this is going

to get worse before it gets better so

I'm gonna assume that we're using a

Phillips head for this ground here I'm

just gonna go get our ground attached to

the case there we go and then we're

going to try to put our power plugs so

because the power supply is going to be

installed probably over here in the case

we're gonna have to run this extension

like this in order to actually plug our

power supply into the wall now in terms

of the way it's intended to go into this

there's a really weird gap here made

this Tesla see that though there's like

a big there's a big little gap well I

don't I don't know like all right let's

see oh wow the the Torx screws and the

Phillips ones are all threaded the same

so you have no way of knowing which ones

which unless you just look at the manual

which I think we all knew wasn't gonna

be happening here dang it you guys okay

so that's on

I'm probably doing everything wrong Jake

you got to tell me if the comments are

helping me all right all right are they

are they trying to be helpful

take that Elon thank you thank you

YouTube comments you guys fully meet my

expectations the IO shield is in the

desc

what pull the cord through the hole oh

[Laughter]

that is it hey I knew we were streaming

this live for a reason nice that's great

are we on David or overhead right now

yes what's the David that is fantastic

ha shoot guys are great what a

tremendous idea and then I think what

we're gonna do is we're gonna use black

screws for that one we're going to

assume that the black ones are for

external stuff so this is gonna go

through here there we go that explains

it gorgeous now it's still really hard

to screw this in well it's in so I am

gonna put the motherboard let's screw in

the corner here in first but now I think

we can successfully install all three or

four screws that we have to deal with in

this tiny little corner here I'm also

gonna do that ground wire now cool I'm

having fun actually really really like

small cases I don't know how well they

actually sell though that's the thing

cause like there's expansion issues you

know motherboards been

ah the motherboard is bent from stuff on

it it's heavy

oh oh yeah that cooler that cooler

tightens down really tight I was kind of

thinking of easing it off a little bit

but then I was like I don't know not to

his generally pretty good about yeah

they usually get the Intel's guidelines

right in terms of the force you're

supposed to apply to the sockets I was

like I don't know it's not like I have

never killed the CPU installing a cooler

too tight before yeah actually bored

sorry not a CPU remember that that

stupid pfSense project the old one yeah

everyone thought that I was killing the

board by like I forget what the stupid

thing they thought I was killing the

board by doing was it made no sense

right by by shaving the plastic down off

of the integrated speaker on the

motherboard

they were like obviously you're taking a

dremel to the motherboard not killing it

it's like no that's not killing it it's

plastic that doesn't do anything I don't

know how to talk to you people when

you're saying things like that so yeah

though that was not the issue the issue

was actually that the the cooler that we

had was for a slightly different one of

the other eleven five something sockets

and apparently the specs for the the

mounting pressure was slightly different

so we ran into trouble because we were

tightening it too much and it was

causing the board to flex too much and

there just wasn't enough extra tolerance

there to allow for it and it just was

destroying them so I killed like two

boards like that and it was really

frustrating because especially this

because especially because I had to mod

it in order to get it to fit so I had to

do all this work and then I finally

install it and it's like broken again

okay so that's how that goes on is that

in focus or is I just like totally out

of focus yeah oh really oh that's pretty

cool neat cool

all right so now we've got this run for

our power supply now it's time for us to

figure out some of this stuff no boy hmm

nope

you know what let's do our front USB

first so this little guy is gonna go now

this one obviously doesn't pull through

the front this one actually screws in

the way that we expect and we're gonna

follow the rules of USB my shoes are

untied ha ha oh that's very funny thank

you did you know that there's like a

conspiracy theory going around that none

of our live streams are actually live I

don't know well there was one that we

did Reese is this average video no I'm

not doing anything that wrong maybe a

little wrong but like come on let's be

fair okay yeah I know there was one we

did recently where I was in a hurry or

something and I didn't end up actually

reading any comments I don't think and

so I saw I saw a comment on it after the

fact where something was like god it's

not live just like all of their quote

unquote live streams I was like what

what do you what are you even talking

about what and we and we do we do read

comments like all the time on most of

them well I think so the logic behind

live streaming or like pretending to be

live I think is is more tied to like

like twitch streaming culture where that

can actually have a benefit like

pretending to be live is a way for you

to go on vacation but not have you're

not like have your channel affected by

by not being there but the thing is that

on YouTube if we wanted to if we wanted

to create content while we can't go live

we would just upload a video so yeah

like there's no like there's there's no

reason

do that I mean I'm sure there's folks

that are more that are more focused on

live that might see some benefit to

doing something like that but we are not

we are not one of them okay

I have to confess Jake can you be my

manual guy because I'm a little bit

confused again here you have to help

David always sing attention too tight

alright okay well I think that's how

that goes in now where did the pieces of

the case go I need to know how the

pci-express riser goes in because I'm a

little confused on the one hand there

were like a bunch of pieces here and I

was confused and then now I feel like

there's not really enough pieces and

like I need more pieces like how do you

secure this thing it's got these

mounting holes right here by the socket

but there's nothing to screw them into

also what does this do what is this

bracket for I don't know I could do that

but this is more fun I'm having fun Jake

that's what these streams are all about

just like having a good you can put a

liquid cooler in this thing how on earth

would you do that

Oh a stubby graphics card okay so yeah

last time around I believe they had

options for like mounting a bunch of

SSDs over here in the event that you had

a short graphics card but apparently now

you can put an AI Oh liquid cooler there

that's that's pretty cool so to speak I

don't think we're gonna do that cuz

we're not ready this is the bracket for

the riser

that kind of looks like it okay oh okay

no I think I see it I think I see it I

think it's like I think it's something

to do with these two holes here yeah

probably yeah it looks like that goes

there and then

the bracket or the riser rather seems

like it just kind of goes goes in there

something yeah heck yeah so then that

kind of secures it or something hmm

is it that's weird so just like this

sits there and just kind of sandwich is

it okay all right I'm into it

no I'm not checking the manual this is

this is a manual this stream fully

automatic look I'm not having this

conversation again David I don't even

think you were on the side of the people

who believed in automatic transmissions

what are you yep

no you're just trying to stir up trouble

no we're not doing a Twitter we're not

no no we're not we're not we're not

pulling people on a tech channel about

their favorite kind of car transmission

that no no we're not no we're not doing

that you can't up you can't you can't

post that you can no yep you can but you

shouldn't oh man see I take so much flak

around here because people see me like

you know burning you guys or saying

things that are mean or whatever and

yeah yeah I know I do it a lot but you

guys quite frankly are asking for it for

the most part like honestly especially

Jake like instead you see you see his

hat you see his hand in his pouch there

it's because instead of Manning the

livestream he was on his phone like hell

millennial I know I know you're not a

millennial even worse you're gonna be

the generation that the Millennials

complain about that's right

what does your generation even called do

you guys even have a name

you don't identify as having gen Z is

that what they're called Gen Z

I was before God no X was before us I

think automatic no no don't we have one

of Coursera short cable kits for this

power supply did you think to check

because this is kind of a you looked you

didn't see 100k cuz I thought we had one

of course errors first party first party

ones for this yeah okay I'm on David

okay I'm gonna try and I'm gonna try and

figure out how to install this and are

you quite sure that this power supply

fits in here sfx compatible you say okay

cuz uh it's not looking real promising

right about now oh wait oh I see it goes

on this side yeah baby

and wait am I on top down oh I didn't

see I got ahead of myself I went and I

did the front USB and now you can't

screw in the power supply once you've

put in the front USB this is why there

are manual see now you're on the manual

side this is why you never go full auto

you can't control the recoil alright

how will you control the recoil first

fire auto yeah that's not even a

question

single fire

okay they can't hear you guys so like

you guys look I'm not saying I'm not

saying you guys can't talk on the stream

I'm just saying you should probably get

miked up if you're gonna talk on the

street what the heck oh I guess they

expect me to use the screws that are

included with my power supply no yeah no

no Jake is literally not a millennial

he's like 17 or something it's funny cuz

you're not even that much Oh roaming

through the chat hey Roman I got

actually dude I gotta bug you about AMD

epic overclocking apparently that's a

thing and we want to get our hands on

one of or actually ideally a couple of

am these epic processors for some video

transcoding benchmarks so we're what no

I'm not gonna drop one of them I will be

very very careful with them

but yeah floatplane wants to take

advantage of the new 10 gig connection

that we got here at the office so we

were actually kind of thinking we would

put a transcode server here and we want

to play around with AMD vs intel versus

GPU and get some sort of real-world

numbers but I was kind of thinking would

be pretty cool to overclock the AMD CPUs

and I saw that there Bauer had a video

that he uploaded overclocking and these

epic server processors so figured it

would be pretty neat to do something

like that like Intel Xeon versus AMD

epic versus AMD epic overclocked because

what could be more epic than an

overclocked server pretty sick like just

to be clear we actually if you take is

the overclocked Intel server video up on

YouTube already or is that only on slow

plane right now

only on floatplane okay so we actually

have a video coming up where we use not

for not as like like like an over the

internet video transcode server but as

like a local video transcode server so

we have an intel-based one from gigabyte

that's actually really cool it's

water-cooled it's overclockable but the

issue is that it's not actually xeon

based so there's nothing really that

servery about it

other than that it's in a one you like

rack mountable case otherwise it could

just as easily be a random desktop board

with 7900 x in it which is the cpu that

we happened to use so by contrast Andes

epic CPUs supposedly actually have

unlocked multi multipliers

so you can actually overclock their

actual server class ones what's up to

put the rubber feet up oh yeah yeah I

wanted to do the vertical mount anyway

hold on a second actually wait what

really oh yeah if you want to put the

bottom feet on you gotta you gotta do

that beforehand oh boy um you know what

I can make that work I got this the

vertical mount just like slots into this

this dude out here so it should be fine

hello boy is that Roman giving me advice

or is that just our random in the chat

random in the chat um you know what I've

actually thought for a long time that

there is a great business opportunity

making custom IO shields because

honestly think about it it couldn't be

that hard from a picture like obviously

there'd be exceptions like some really

you know wacko motherboards in

non-standard form factors or whatever

else but for like standard ATX boards it

couldn't be that hard to figure out a

way to mostly automate the process of

taking a picture of the back of a

motherboard and you know kind of

figuring out exactly what the dimensions

are based on some known

some known items like the size of a USB

port and then I think there has got to

be a business in replacing lost i/o

shields because I personally have had

probably a probably dozens of i/o

shields that I would was like you know

what this doesn't really matter it's not

like it affects performance but boy

would I love to have a new one for this

because this is really frustrating and

if you could do it for like you know 10

15 bucks plus what's up Oh take

that off if you can do it for like 10 15

bucks plus shipping or something like

that I think people pay for it I think

there's an opportunity there why is

there a Titan arjax why wouldn't there

be a Titan r-tx what else would we put

in here you know if you if you got it

you flex it right up

yeah there's no i/o shield because it's

missing because Jake lost it actually I

we don't know that Jake lost it we just

suspect that Jake lost it that's all

okay so we're actually in pretty good

shape other than that we didn't put the

feet on but I think we could still oh

wow no the board is not coming out we

would have to take this off we would

have to yeah no this is this is a bad

time this would be a really really

really bad time to to get everything out

so yep we're vertical mounting all right

let's do some cable management here

yeah actually David if you just want to

indicate to Jake which one you want

based on you having apparently much

better game sense than him in terms of

what the viewers should be looking at

and that would look great that's fine I

always tell stories it's what I do

alright so that's in there I'm just

gonna turn that power supply on now so

that I don't forget doesn't matter as

long as I don't plug it into the wall

there's no there's no drawback to that

and we're just going to

go ahead and tuck these cables in here

all right not bad actually even though I

don't have a short cable kit this is

coming together pretty nicely power

button yeah yeah okay power button we

got this thank you thank you

I actually really like these I forget

what they're calling vandal vandal proof

or anti-vandal whatever that means I

don't understand what is vandal

resistant about them exactly but

basically you just feed them through a

nice cutout hole like this one

BOPE really clean looking and they have

these really nice ones now that have an

integrated led rings so just with two

buttons you can have your power and your

reset and then you can have your power

led and your drive activity led which

apparently I have just been informed

quite recently is not cool anymore Drive

LEDs not cool why so Jake you were the

one telling me that you that's the first

thing you unplug why on earth would you

do that you don't plug in it's not

distracting what not how else would you

okay so a couple things one how how else

no no no no hold on hold on I need a

chance to I need a chance to argue my

position here so so one how would you

know then if your drive is active and

number two is why are you watching

movies off of your hard drive or your

SSD when you should have an ass like a

real man you don't have enough stuff to

throw Nana's okay so why don't you why

don't you have enough stuff to store on

an ass like a real man I'm just I'm just

asking I'm just asking questions because

your gen Z okay this is gonna be a

little tricky to install but that's fine

we got this power switch I kind of ran

all these cables before doing the power

switch in the power led and they are

under all the cables but that's fine I

am a pretty experienced header plug or

inner although I have been known to make

mistakes from time to time

and edit them out actually it's a funny

thing like people I think feel like we

make a ton of mistakes when we do things

but I think a big part of the reason for

that is that we don't edit them out you

know we leave them in and like I don't

know it's on the one hand I think it's

like damaged our reputation sometimes

because you know we'll sometimes we'll

try things and you know sometimes it's

actually in a spectacularly stupid idea

and other times like it's honestly not

it's not really any different from what

someone at home you know might have

tried but we're you know we have you

know we're willing to put ourselves out

there and say yeah we tried this and

here was the result and if nothing else

you know the way we feel is that it like

it answers someone's question because if

we were wondering if it works then

someone somewhere was probably wondering

if it works and if it's a good idea and

now they know without damaging their

hardware so stand behind it wow that is

a great idea you know what Jake I'm

putting you on that project Phillips hue

activated by your hard drive activity

LED yeah so like it's like yeah we're

loading that game switching levels I'll

be awesome sort of so stupid like I Lyla

I love it though that's hilarious Thank

You community it's like this is why we

can never run out of ridiculous ideas

because every time we think we're close

I'll just like go on the forum or fire

up Twitter and people do like can you

cool a GPU by just like throwing it in

an ice cold bath like gee yeah good

question

we're cool a Macbook by putting it in a

puddle yeah or like that actually that

was my idea that was not a community

submitted idea if I recall correctly oh

yeah it worked really well but it's not

actually what I wanted to do so here's

the thing thanks Danny

so here's the thing what I had actually

wanted to do for that project where what

we what we kind of oh wow am I gonna

plug this in oh this is getting real

tight here yeah the front USB yeah no I

figured it out I'm gonna go through here

and I'm gonna go over here so what I had

actually wanted to do with that project

where we took a MacBook and basically I

think the bottom of it was unibody so I

didn't have to do anything but we pretty

much put it in a puddle of like ice

water but not fully submerged so it was

just making contact with the the back of

the the MacBook which was a passively

cooled machine and I was trying to see

if we could get a performance boost like

if there was if the hardware had more to

give if it was properly cooled and yes

it did and it actually worked really

well but the concept the original

concept for that video was something

kind of different I what I had wanted to

try to find was you know what would be

an example of something like this like

man have you ever seen like those those

really thin foil like like you know a

hot water bottle like you know you guys

know hot water bottles like those rubber

things okay and like can you can you

imagine for a second like a really thin

foil hot-water bottle okay so like like

putting camel backs maybe maybe kind of

like that yeah like a like a metal like

a metal foil like bag kind of you know

and so I've been trying to find

something like this ever since then like

periodically I'll be like look I don't

know what it's called or what it would

be called but I'm sure it exists so some

kind of a conductive layer flexible bag

that can hold a liquid that that's

watertight because everyone out there is

making notebook coolers

that frankly don't work very well

because all they can do is like blow air

at the bottom of your laptop and we've

tested them before they don't seem to

really do a whole lot of much whereas if

you could make a notebook cooler that

made physical contact with a large

amount of the bottom of your device and

that actually had cool water circulating

through it with an external radiator I

think you could get really similar

results to what we did with our MacBook

there but without actually having the

water come in contact with the laptop

which is really stupid for very obvious

reasons

and something you would only want to do

very very temporarily

we should probably revisit you know

phone and laptop water cooling it's been

long enough that we could probably take

some modern devices and yeah but the

cold plate yeah the thermal transfer

would suck and if you had something that

was more flexible than you wouldn't have

to worry about that so much so that was

that was actually the somewhat

legitimately good idea that spawned that

video at least I think it was a

legitimately good idea yeah no thermal

pad would be nasty

okay so SSD now it looks like it goes

over here this is one packed frigging

case man this is nuts yeah I put the

m-dot two in yeah thankfully because if

I was trying to figure that out now yeah

you know what forget it yeah MDOT two is

the past the present and the future now

man not even because like I think the

performance difference is especially

noticeable you know when you're firing

up apex legends or whatever the kids are

playing these days but just because it's

like it's small its compact you know

it's the future baby Hey look I can play

apex legends with the best of them they

will also be in the game while I am

there so I can play with the best of

them yeah for a short period of time

yeah yeah yeah could trout and ninja

carry me do you think so I don't know

I'm pretty bad it's pretty humiliating I

screw it's fine oh good

yeah that's right okay so was that the

whole build this actually was pretty

painless yeah what else is what else has

left I feel like I'm missing something I

really feel like I'm missing something

am I missing something

also there's like twice as many screws

as I needed it looks like there's an

entire set of silver in an entire set of

black is that just an option like is

that mentioned in the manual because so

far I haven't needed a single silver

screw like am I gonna get to a point

where all of a sudden I go oh well now I

need all the black screws the oops

is Ninja bad at Apex alright I don't

know look I don't know I don't even know

what game the kids are playing let alone

like who's good at it so I I'm hiding

behind that defense how could you expect

me to know anything if I clearly know

nothing is that even a defense GP power

yes we will need that cool Han I still

really like this case honestly they

haven't changed that much it's little

tweaks like I guess it's appropriate

that they called it the Sentry 2.0

because it's still a really really

similar internal layout but what I do

like is that it was pretty easy to

manage my cables even though I don't

have custom cable mod ones making things

even a little bit easier and yeah the

fact that they've now figured out how to

throw in a io liquid cooler and there's

pretty freakin cool

pardon the obvious obvious terrible

obvious pun all right go ahead and do

this feel like I should be like checking

if they oh yeah I could have had the

chat up the whole time that's why I put

my laptop there and then I totally

forgot I got distracted I got distracted

building computers can you really blame

me okay the web show starts in yes 35

minutes I am aware of that thank you now

this is a little tricky we've got a

modular power supply and you can see or

maybe you can see but there's not a lot

of clearance are you only overhead you

can see there's not a lot of clearance

for our power button so plugging this in

looks like it might be a bit of a

problem and there's a chance that our

power button will no longer work when

we're done

there's only one way for us to find out

though

by measuring weight there's another way

the MSI Titan what now Titan X Trident X

oh why is it better well I don't know

you can build it yourself for one thing

but no I wouldn't say it's especially

better it is smaller it's quite a bit

smaller like the the thing about small

form-factor

off-the-shelf computers is that they're

like how do I put this they're like you

know validated you know MSI particularly

with that one

didn't even try to go that small they

tried to go really really high

performance and like pretty small ish

whereas this is full small like I am

expecting both our Titan our TX and our

8700 K to throttle at least a little bit

I mean especially this poor Titan dual

eight pin power connectors in a case

that's like smaller that's actually not

much bigger than some external GPU

enclosures except that it also contains

a CPU Ram motherboard etc

don't get an ice-water yeah it'll be no

problem Titan r-tx cooled by ice water

trying to fix it oh man I have not had

good luck with my trying to fix videos

lately so there was that one that we

weren't even sure if it was an upload

where I tried to like glue the CPU back

together because it was like

mechanically separated and people were

mad they were like this is stupid

he didn't even succeed I'm like yeah

okay fair enough

and then I have the one that we filmed

earlier this week David where what was

the problem with that see if you get

right so I thought the issue was that we

got some some liquid metal that like

seeped out seeped off the dye and

shorted something but then we opened it

up and that wasn't the problem but then

we tried like cleaning it up anyway and

and putting it back together and then

that didn't work so that was like I

don't know two hours of shooting time

wasted I think we're actually gonna

upload that video anyway but not to

YouTube because people got so so just

what is it tilt it thank you I was

thinking twisted but I knew that wasn't

right people got very tilted no I was

gonna go with tilting because I think

triggered is like old now right

I don't think triggered is cool anymore

no I don't like if I like whoof that's

not that I don't like roblox I just

don't know what roblox is yeah no I I

prefer with subscribe to PewDiePie so I

bought harder guys bought harder you

know so you're not botting hard enough I

forget what I was even talking about yes

this is why I script all my stuff now

right oh yeah right that video so I

think we're gonna just cut it together

like barely edited at all and then just

like chuck it up on floatplane and if

people like it they like it and if they

don't well then they don't have to watch

it

oh man that's dense like like listen to

that

boom it's heavy I love this thing

alright we're gonna go ahead and pop

this puppy on here I did put the side

paddle on the first thing if it posts I

am yeah this is this is bad bad jeebies

bad jubie's

I don't know it's bad something these Oh

gorgeous man I love this case and that

didn't even take that long to build how

long have we even been streaming doesn't

say well whatever not bad let's fire it

up just put some stuff away here I'm

gonna set a good example for all our

viewers back home okay when you're

working on your build

please make sure that you put everything

away and keep everything together as you

go because otherwise you are going to

regret it

get my LIVESTRONG bracelet on you betcha

you can't tell I'm wearing it on my

ankle so it's on my ankle Jake actually

you know what there's a there's a

different foot here I don't even know

what this foots for I guess this is if

you don't have a graphics card that's

like hardcore mode wow that is a long

power cable thank you

pretty much nice do we have like

keyboard and mouse and all that kind of

good stuff you're working on it I swear

he's like really good at some things

okay do you think it's gonna post first

time

wait what's this bracket for well no one

knows and now we'll put it in there

someone in chat probably knows because

they probably subscribed to floatplane

or subscribe to Kyle on floatplane and

they probably saw his building this

thing already

I saw him upload a video so I was just

like oh yeah that thing but his video is

gonna be way better than this one

because my understanding is he didn't

just like do it live with no manual so

yeah you guys are gonna want to go check

that out if you're actually looking to

build a system in this thing because

it's more of like a step-by-step guide

for those of you who don't know who I'm

talking about Kyle or bit wit he changes

his brand a lot so you know it's

understandable if you don't know who he

is no he didn't change it to something

not stupid it's bit with I think that's

pretty stupid it's better than it's

better than awesomesauce

news or whatever it was before so he's

got that going for him and yes in

fairness to him it's better than Linus

media group because like your name is

Linus and you're completely devoid of

any creative thoughts I just couldn't

figure out what to call the company like

I wanted to describe what we do

so like media and like I want it to be

like I want to be like who it is who's

doing it oh can I actually have an

Ethernet cable Jake that would be swell

be supercool I'm gonna get my cell phone

no no I didn't unplug the stream card

it's all good okay I'm gonna sit in the

trendy chair today no I didn't get one

but yeah that's long enough cool really

really Jake just throw it on the ground

and also no it's not long enough bring

me a different one do it again

actually it's long enough it's fine it's

long enough no no don't

killing me here all right here we go and

I got it no I'm not gonna drop it I

don't actually drop that much stuff for

you guys okay oh this is not comfortable

why is furniture like this cool stupid

oh yeah it's awful what it's deer saying

it's not stupid it's not cool well why

does it exist then that's the only

reason most stupid stuff exists cuz it's

cool Melissa this is awful okay here we

go oh it's supposed to have a cushion

okay here we go

yeah me too I don't see this monitor lit

up though did I forget to plug it in did

oh wait what wait did you yeah what no

do you much do you mind grabbing another

power key thanks Jake thank you oh wait

there's one over there there's one

behind the island he's good I'll

probably have it before he doesn't

okay cool

uh yeah yeah cool thanks there you go

no I found what sorry I didn't mean to

throw it so fast all right

input DisplayPort Wow sometimes

DisplayPort can be kind of stupid so

we'll go ahead and oh that turned off

right away that was not good maybe it

was just like new CPU installed though

like maybe was sitting at the post

screen let's hope let's hope that it's

gonna work because otherwise we yeah

we're free we're just gonna have to end

the stream here well you guys that was

it that was how to build a

non-functional computer in this case

there we go nice beautiful beauty okay

did our MDOT to AH show up yes it did

we've got our 16 gigs around showing up

our 8700 K showing up everything seems

to be working

blink that's fantastic boot override

boom here we go see I sort of know what

I'm doing that I pretend that it works I

mean I can't fake this can i that

probably could there could be a computer

in here and there actually is sort of

some components of a computer in there I

don't know if you can see that but

that's the remnants of the cleanest desk

PC setup so it's just a power supply and

in a kitty Oh Thunderbolt GPU enclosure

why is that still in here oh wow the I

guess we could get this up and running

again pretty quickly that's pretty cool

I am very curious to see how well this

poor Titan r-tx survives in here that is

a rough rough situation here I'm just

gonna scooch over a little bit more

David so you can get a better angle then

you can get a look at how tightly that

graphics card is packed in

check that out oh sorry was that oh yeah

well the laptop is here so that I can

read chats which I just kept I kept

forgetting to do can you put a tridon X

next to it shoot I think the Trident NEX

is back in the inventory is it right

there

oh thanks Alex do you mind bringing it

over cool yeah so we can show you guys

the tribe necks next it's trust me it's

a lot smaller probably the new one

I would think how about my name is Linus

and this is my company yeah that

wouldn't have been better I don't think

cool

apparently the cooling thing I described

is called an HTP pad about 20 bucks or

so to make a laptop cooler out of it

because I had the same idea says Jeremy

how interesting HTP pad huh alright did

this just reboot in like a bad way or a

good way okay so here you go guys thank

you Alex so that is not the same size as

that at all like they're in a similar

class where they're both you know

compact desktops but you can like you

can really see then the terms of the

fitness like if you're trying to you

know slide your gaming computer and or

maybe it's not a gaming machine maybe

you do like a more modest building it if

you're trying to like slide it into your

desk or something this is not doing that

but this is it's really really compact

and then in terms of the the depth as

well

I now have them set back the same amount

so if you switch angles here David and

go this way yeah if you go from where I

am you can really see how much further

out the tried next comes compared to the

century 2.0 your top down right now oh

okay all right well cool Jake is

apparently top down right now and he's

giving you guys a better shot all right

so why don't we just start with some

good old-fashioned prime95 get that hhw

monitor

boom excuse me do you even use sigh soft

Sandra alright task manager excuse me

can I speak to a manager please the task

manager

alright so our package is sitting right

in the neighborhood of 90 to 95 degrees

it's pretty toasty oof oof we just

dropped down to 3.5 gigahertz

I wonder if actually I'd I haven't had

trouble loading things up with prime95 I

just wonder if this motherboard is

configured to not hold turbo for as long

because here if I said I bet if I stop

it give it the old stop Arena here and

then I'm gonna fire it up again options

torture test small FFT blah blah we're

gonna jump right to almost 4 gigahertz

again and we're up in that 90 to 95

degrees Celsius range and I bet it's

gonna it's gonna drop down a little bit

so this this workload might not be

cooperating with us but that's fine

because we probably also have something

else that we could throw at it huh you

know what we could do is we could even

just like try to play 8k footage I've

got red cine X on here that would give

us a pretty good idea so it's turbo

boosting really nicely right now let's

go on our remote drive Z Linus we have a

video coming that I'm really excited

about where we're testing out in videos

CUDA acceleration of real time 8k

playback and I'm not gonna use it right

now because I want to hit the CPU but

it's it does take some faffing about in

order to get it working so it's like

kind of a pain in the butt but it's

really really cool and we show a bunch

of the different ways that you can that

you can accelerate playback of this

whether it's with CPU or GPU and yeah

it's it's pretty impressive anyway

so let's go ahead and play that and that

should hit us pretty hard oh we might be

Network bottlenecked though oh no we're

not actually yeah interesting oh yeah

there we go

now we're up near 90 percent cpu and

we're still turbo wing to 4.3 gigahertz

so that's not bad but we're up near that

90 degree mark either way it's clear

because you'll never see 85 90 % CPU

usage while you're gaming it's clear

that our CPU is going to be fine when

we're gaming and we're gonna be seeing

pretty darn near full turbo on this

thing so that's pretty nice and this is

a very real-world workload not quite the

heaviest one that we could throw at it

but it's pretty abusive this is 30 FPS

4k 7 to 1 compression

excuse me 4k 8 k 7 to 1 compression

ratio red footage and it's just me

goofing around just because we needed a

test clip normally we shoot it more like

20 to 1 so yeah we recorded this

apparently because we're goofballs hey

there we go

we are getting up near 100% usage now

and we're getting near 100 degrees but

we are still turbo into 4.3 gigahertz is

nice alright cool when we go ahead and

fire up a game I actually Jake I don't

know if I actually I might have lied I

don't have any games installed on here

because I think they're on my other

drive csgo yeah but oh you know what

we've got a nice fast CPU so the cache

might actually pull it down pretty

quickly I don't show this again why

would I why would I want to see this

again

alright let's see what our csgo download

speed is here move that's not that great

oh yeah I forgot my thing is woof no I

want I'm

Oh Cinebench r20 sure yeah that's got it

oh no isn't it like a stupid Windows

Store app or something well fortunately

we are what's it what's it even called

Microsoft Store roblox

what's worse roblox is that in here you

see that you see me search for Cinebench

did you see that and it came up with

nothing and then I like click the thing

oh so stupid no thanks

why would I want to sign in to get this

installed especially if I don't have to

ok what wait hold on is it just telling

me that I have to sign in but I actually

don't is this still going don't close

this I discard my changes oh wait no I

think what's Wow

what's sucking back all the cpu is this

download which is coming down at 60

megabytes a second so yeah we're more

CPU limited this must just be one that's

not particularly multi-threaded the good

news is that we're gonna be done in

about 47 seconds here so that's nice

this product is installed ok let's just

see see if that is so misleading I don't

have to do this here it is

it's so stupid alright we're not gonna

be able to run this until csgo is done

but it should be done in about 30

seconds here so see if anybody sent a

super chat but I need to reply to Oh

this was one of them Matt says I'd love

to see a hackintosh build sometime

so would I we actually tried to collab

with the same person that we did on our

last hackintosh build a little while ago

and we sent this individual an 18 core

CPU if I recall correctly along with a

it was a 70 900 X Oh 10 core ok so we

sent him a 70 900 X and a LGA 2066

motherboard and he flaked just stopped

replying to emails and the thing with

hackintosh is that yeah with enough time

we could probably figure it out but

collaborating with someone

into the scene is a way more efficient

way to to work on stuff like that so

that's what we had tried to do and we

basically got screwed so I'm not saying

we're not going to do it I'm just saying

that we tried and it didn't work and so

it'll be later that's that's the way

that's gonna be all right this is just

installing right now just about done

three more seconds and it's in a bench

time so Cinebench are twenty is based on

a much much newer version of the

software compared to our 15 to be

specific five five versions newer and it

gives you some idea of how well the

system should perform in cinema 4d now

there's actually also an unofficial r15

extreme that's like a community created

one that's designed to kind of separate

the men from the boys so to speak when

it comes to like these huge many

threaded CPUs these days but that's also

based on version 15 so this seems like

it would be a better bet it does seem

like it's it's definitely intensive like

we are throttling all the way down to

three point eight five gigahertz now

we're at we were at a hundred degrees

yeah it's hitting it hard

actually but it does seem like it's

still gonna be a really short benchmark

because there's only a six core

processor and it's still doing pretty

well here

yeah I can hear it a little it's not bad

though

here you guys my mic song here so the

CPU fan is definitely ramping up but my

power supply fan still isn't even on

we're using the 600 watt Corsair I think

it's an 80 plus platinum unit and it's

so efficient that even with the CPU load

the fans not even spinning it's pretty

cool once we hit it with a GPU load

though it'll definitely start spinning

we can fire up it's yes go in a minute

here not that csgo is a particularly

representative benchmark for the Titan

r-tx but I thought there were games on

this drive in there are it

and we're live so it's gonna be what it

is you know you got a half button you

gotta roll with that roll with the

punches there you know there you go we

got 30 100 points which most people

won't have a ton of context for because

this benchmark has only been out for a

couple of days neat what I really want

to see though is the GPU temperatures

when we're in games and the CPU

temperature is when we're in games no I

don't want to open the download page

this is fine so here's our GP

temperatures were sitting at 35 idle

that's perfectly reasonable but we'd

expect that cuz look at all this

ventilation you've got like the GPU

until you start to generate a ton of

heat and it starts to kind of recycle

that it's basically running an open air

right now cuz it's all mesh on the top

all mesh along the side where those fans

are drawing in fresh air it's game

launcher oh I have no idea what the

availability in this case is I only

briefly skimmed the email because I was

like oh cool it's those guys again

that's neat guys let me know actually in

the comments on this video if you want

it's cuz we don't really do case reviews

anymore but if you guys want to see a

return to case coverage this might

actually be a way to do it just like do

a built right layout some hardware get

all get all the tools like do it I mean

we can draw a pretty reasonable

conclusion about the kind of build that

you can do and it obviously it's not

gonna be to the same depth as the

hardware contacts or gamers Nexus or

whatever else but it's it's a way for us

to have some fun with it make it really

like hands-on really practical I'm gonna

practice with but you know what no I'm

gonna official match make play here okay

what what what should I do

that's - no no not competitive casual

casual I am I am the filthiest casual

that ever casual - Jake you know this

I'm lucky if I can maintain like one to

one kill the death ratio on in a casual

match and I don't even have a mousepad

right now in fair

this to me oh boy he's eliminating

excuses man I should have used the

excuse after I lost that's the problem

with blowing your excuse load early well

see now I can't even I can't even buy

things because you just are throwing

stuff at me killing me here

oh yeah it's warm up never mind well

look I don't

I only play I only practice with BOTS

David so I don't know these things

alright here we go

Bryan's probably coming to get his

laptop back he's precious alright want

to see my GPU Tim's about 50 degrees oh

did I wait okay Matt shouldn't start yet

oh there's no there's no team damage in

casual alright yeah dual beretta is like

a pro yeah you know it baby I'm sorry I

get a burrito if I get a kill with these

okay

yeah no David would get a kill with them

I'm terrorists right oh crap

well cuz I forgot and that way I'll fire

at the right people okay come on did I

even hit him I hate these games with

recoil honestly I can't play games with

recoil no I know I hit him on the first

shot because I had the crosshairs right

on his head but I didn't go to oh boy so

you've played quake 3 arena with me I go

toe to toe with you and games where you

had the gun actually goes where you

point no problem you're better than you

you were wrecking me David you were

there

what was he wrecking me no he certainly

wasn't that is such BS yeah Alex you

were there was Jake wrecking me in quake

3 arena

I thought David was good too yeah

ads it's good at everything I hate

playing video games with it unless he's

on my team in which case it's lots of

fun hey my team won I helped I did like

eight damage to that guy all right I'm

trying one more time because I want the

free burrito oh I have the bomb what do

you mean I don't get them yeah I get two

chances who cares

no I'm getting the note you have to do

the burrito it's up to the chat what do

you mean I lost know if I get a kill

that's a kill with the dual Berettas no

way no way no way that doesn't count

oh come on they even hit him nope didn't

even hit him how did I miss from there

well I think we're done here hold on

actually before we do that though so

we're sitting up at around 69 degrees

but we also I don't think are even like

fully utilizing our our power budget

here on this card because this is a

pretty it was a pretty bangin card here

yeah we're at like 80% power actually

it's still not bad there's really quiet

huh all right yes I wish to stop playing

now I think we're done here also I think

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but how that power supply fan never

turned on sick no no I don't think it's

broken I mean it could be broken yeah no

I didn't kill a guy so I guess