hey what's up Doug Huntington here from
niche site project and five-figure a
niche site I'm with my friend Samara
here and we are gonna do some Q&A and
just chat so uh Samara what's going on
there looks like you have your hands
full I do have my hands full hopefully
this little ones will be quiet for a
call yeah everything's good thanks
sweet so yeah thanks for joining up
today I know you're busy and you got
stuff to do and all that so yeah I
appreciate you taking the time out and
um today we're just gonna answer
questions so this is like the normal
like Friday
niche type project Q&A that we do at 10
a.m. mountain time and you are not the
me Mountain Time Zone where were you at
currently I am in Madrid Spain well yeah
what time is it there it is 6:00 p.m.
6:00 p.m.
Wow okay so usually when when we talk
it's like way late huh like midnight
1:00 in the morning then
wow I'm usually asleep for like a few
hours at that point so crazy alright so
the deal is like Samara and I have been
working together sort of like sort of
undercover behind the scenes for a few
weeks at least and we'll talk about that
sometime in the future but it is not
time to do that yet
but that means a lot of people have no
idea who you are Samara so if you could
just you know tell us about yourself a
little bit ok um a lot marginally from
New York States but I got a one-way
ticket and pack my bags and move to
Spain like 17 years ago in search of
adventure um and I just ended up setting
up my roots here so I've been working in
financial translation for the last 10
years and it's not something I feel
really passionately about then I had
kids and I realized I really wanted to
spend time with them and be home it so I
started looking at alternatives
alternative ways to earn a living that
would allow me to have more
so that led me to internet marketing and
I have dabbled in different kinds of
17 years ago so you've been there for 17
years how often do you come back to the
states um I come about two times a year
to see my parents and my sister I've
family all over there yeah interesting
that that's actually pretty often that's
like I mean I haven't been gone from the
South I'm from Atlanta originally but I
haven't been back in a couple years so
if you're you're going back like twice a
year you have me beads Wow
well my parents are getting older and
now 10 grandchildren so I have all these
reasons to go back
gotcha gotcha cool so I do have a chat
open over here and I'm just gonna I'm
gonna pop it open and see what's up we
have a few people on we have success
rollercoaster Adrian's on as well cue
dog Paul and a meal so thanks everyone
for hopping on if you have questions
feel free to just ask you can ask me
questions you could ask Samara questions
and I guess it's worthwhile mentioning
like how you and I like connected Samara
so I'll sort of I'll open it up and say
that a couple I think it was like two
three months ago I did this promotion
which I haven't talked about again but
because it's still going on I asked
people to comment on someone else's
YouTube channel Noah Kagan so I can get
Noah's attention so I sent out an email
to my email list and said hey you could
chat with me for like 15 minutes for
free all you have to do is go over to
know his channel comment mention my name
somehow and then give me a screenshot so
we basically like his normal
like YouTube video typically only gets
like you know a dozen comments or so he
got like over a hundred in like a bunch
of additional views so like no one knows
exactly who I am so that that was cool
what you say Mataji Thanks yeah and I
mean like it's unconventional like I
have a big enough audience where like if
I ask people to do stuff like it's
enough to offset like a normal video or
if I ask someone to like if I do this in
math I can't do it all the time right it
would be overwhelming for people I can't
do 15 minutes chats with everyone I
ended up talking with like about 30 or
40 people like I talked to a bunch of
people and almost all the calls were
over 15 minutes it took a huge amount of
time I basically got nothing out of it
and the goal was to eventually like post
something on you know collaborate with
Noah in some fashion get my stuff on
Noah's channel I'm still working on it
like I haven't made it work yet but
anyway that's how you and I started
talking and the thing is you've been
around this like ecosystem for a little
while because you were part of a case
study with a niche pursuits and Spencer
was your coach right right so how long
like when did you start working with him
like what was it like you know I guess
going through the application process
and all that stuff um that was in
December of 2015 that's been at all
that's when the competition was open I
kind of saw as a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity right he's a really
successful blogger in this space and I
basically thought I was gonna win the
contest I was gonna die trying
that's why please pulled out all the
stops and actually you got a spot in the
project and yeah he was my coach so that
started in December January 2017 yeah
cool so and and I cut I followed like I
mean I got started because of like niche
site project
that Spencer held a few years before
that where he like launched his own site
and then you know further he did a case
study with Perrin but like for a little
while parent and I were like talking
pretty often because I was coming up
around the same time that he was working
with Spencer and like we just had a lot
of interest parents of great guys with
authority hacker now good guys overall
as well and yeah it was just an
interesting overlap and then I was
paying close attention with the case
study that Spencer was doing and it was
it was interesting in some ways because
there were like three like apprentices
or students and there were three coaches
and they all had really different
approaches and some of them I was like
hey I don't agree with that approach
some of them I was like hey that's an
interesting strategy I never heard of
and I was like it I mean intermediate
experts at the time I mean I knew stuff
right I was like implementing stuff like
I knew how to do it the really
interesting part is like if I was a
newbie coming up and I was introduced to
those three studies I would be like I
don't know what to do
there's too much information and you
guys are literally providing conflicting
info so it was like I was like this is
bananas I can't listen to any more of
these podcasts this doesn't make sense
so we fast-forward and I see questions
coming in so we'll keep the questions
coming in I'm gonna come back to it I'm
sorry we're just doing a little intro in
case people don't know Samara at all so
the thing is when you and I talked like
I think the case study and the coaching
was sort of winding down with Spencer
and his team they at that point they'd
like sold longtail Pro they're launching
a like a paid coaching like course like
ongoing monthly payment situation so
they were doing that and launching that
and you know the case study was was
pretty much you know done or at least
like they were finished with whatever
they were trying to do now I haven't
read the most recent like update for all
three of you but basically the goal was
to hit like five hundred bucks
month is that the initial goal or okay
and I don't think anyone did it right no
one did it as far as I can tell and I'm
actually I met one of the other students
she's visiting in Madrid and we're kind
of in touch and um neither of us have
been able to kind of seal the deal on
Colleen yeah yeah she's cool I haven't
met her in person but like I think her
and I have a similar background in like
project management but yeah we're sort
were like online friends or whatever on
like Instagram and whatever so I see
she's travelling a lot and yeah very
interesting
I guess just very interesting that like
the case study ran for that long so like
18 months in you were making and this is
about when we started talking like 18 19
months in you and I started talking a
little bit you said you're making about
100 150 bucks a month roughly for the
last several months and you were looking
to make a change to get like some other
input I'm teaching stuff way different
than other people because I'm very
different than other people so that's
how we connected and we've been working
on like revamping your site getting it
to a spot where you know I think you
should have started in the first place
so we've kind of gone back to ground one
we looked at areas to optimize we look
the areas that you could like just spend
more time on to get more leverage cuz I
mean you had like a hundred and fifty
post and you weren't getting traction
you did all this stuff that you were
supposed to do and like it wasn't
working so that's how we started working
together and I'm gonna go back to the
chat Samira here and just you just let
me know if you need to leave or anything
you obviously have a child there oh no
sir
it's alright this is real this is a real
deal so let's see I'm reading the chat
Denis is on silver is on Leila says
we're in Spain are you and you're in
Madrid right Tamara and Nick Nick asks
what does Samaras specialize and what
would you say you specialize in is there
a thing you know financially
that's why what I didn't I said most of
my life doing okay and I'd rather do
anything else
like everyone with a job basically okay
so as far as like the internet marketing
area Nick Samara is not he's like not an
expert in any of the areas she's you
know I would say you're at like beginner
to intermediate level on the niche site
internet marketing like you know a lot
you've been work I mean you put hundreds
maybe thousands of hours into your site
and the the thing that I would say that
your you specialize in is like
persistence because a lot of people
would give up before then and basically
as long as you keep trying like you're
gonna eventually get it because no
single piece is hard but it's like to
assemble the right steps in the right
order at the right time that's the hard
part so like if you do 20 steps and then
you messed up on step 12 you may have to
go back to step 11 and then breathing a
bit and then you know it happens over
and over again it happens for me is I'm
working through stuff as well so you're
persistent and that's why we're working
together Brittany is on hey Brittany how
are you today in leo my main leo also
good to have you on Leila says in
regards to the keyword golden ratio is
it a good or bad sign to see the first
three to five results in Google being
YouTube videos instead of websites does
it matter at all yeah kind of matters I
mean again there are many sort of cold
or Aries is that how you pronounce the
word there are many caveats to the key
word golden ratio in which I ignore just
to make it simple but if you see like
YouTube videos being ranked then
probably a YouTube video is required
Google has found that people are more
interested in YouTube videos in that
case so that is just you know something
to keep in mind and it applies for you
know if you see all ecommerce sites or
if you see
just all Pinterest results or something
like that but if you see Google favoring
a particular thing and it's clear then
you should mind Nick says what are your
top tips for increasing time on page
besides the obvious one increasing the
content length Samara do you have any
thoughts on that from your perspective
um I don't know that I'm in a position
to answer ever
what would you be your best guess though
I'm a way to increase time on page um
more and better content okay
that would be my guess okay yeah and I
was gonna say you know lengthening it is
definitely great Nick which of course
you already mentioned and adding YouTube
videos like good YouTube videos that
have a hook because someone will sit on
your page and watch it in that that can
again it has to have a good hook at the
beginning YouTube videos are a whole
other animal which I'm obviously
learning I mean some of my earlier
videos I mean I mean I just wanted to
get stuff out the door so I was doing
like screen share stuff rambling on
there like 20 30 minutes long I didn't
edit anything cuz like I said I just
wanted it out the door now I have a
great editor who's way better than me so
I could just give her the files and then
she makes it great
so yeah YouTube video and you already
know increase the length that's really
the best thing to do okay silver says
can you share your experience on ranking
from rank six to number one like is it
fast or slow I've been sitting on number
six for six weeks and have been building
links actively but no movement so we're
also let us know what age is your site
so Samara have you had any experience
with like the speed in which you rank a
specific post that you could talk about
no I mean I understand like the the old
of your domain that the faster it ranks
but I you know I'm
just now learning about from you how to
move the page up in the ranking so like
I know prior days I haven't experienced
but I would assume that the age has
something to do with it cool all right
yeah I think age for sure I mean you
could debut faster at a higher rank with
it with a more you know age domain but
silver the real so your silver is
telling me that his or her site is over
a year old so here's the thing six weeks
is nothing leaks take a while patience
is key so keep doing what you're doing
until you get like you know 10 to 15
links on that post on that post not
other posts like 10 to 15 links on that
post that you're trying to rank and then
you'll see it slowly move up over you
know the course of six months I
personally believe that each URL has a
sandbox period alright so we think about
it as the overall domain but I believe I
mean I've seen it with me publishing
like just a ton of content that slowly
over time those you know it started at
number five or something like that a
keyword golden ratio term and it may go
to number one but it may take six months
and I don't do anything it just takes
time so that's kind of where my my data
comes from it's just one side it's just
a case study it's not a test or
experiments or anything like that I've
never like you know replicated it on
other sites or anything all right
I've been cool really good questions
coming in so keep posting and we're
slowly making our way through so Adrian
says what's the most difficult part for
Samara to understand in the process of
creating a niche site
um I think link building I mean that was
originally why we spoke because I just I
find the whole thing really overwhelming
there's a lot of long term strategies I
mean most of them I guess they're kind
of medium or long term strategies which
you know you don't want to get involved
in something that's just not going to
work out and I think that whole thing is
kind of stressful right you don't want
to implement strategy and have
it not working with all this time so
link building I think is by far like the
big mystery for me okay cool I think a
lot of people yeah a lot of people say
that the I mean there are two main areas
in it it's funny like it's like either
niche selection and keyword research or
link building which you know those are
really the two areas that I tell people
to spend time on anyway so if they're
like when it increased my earnings or I
want to you know improve my existing
site whether they're making like $1 or
like $10,000 it's like well either need
to add more content do keyword research
or you need more links probably both so
people usually get hung up in those two
areas because there's it's really hard
to get like quick feedback so I know a
lot of people out there are you know
developers or coders of some kind and I
I have a computer engineering degree so
I like did some coding back in the day
and it's actually it's really fun
because you can like make a change and
then you know compile the code or check
like reload the web page or whatever and
you see the results like you can test it
immediately when I was doing like like
some I guess harder core software
development where you had to you know
compile the code and it took a day or
whatever because you're building like a
full release or something like that and
you had to load it onto your test server
and if people don't know what I'm
talking about then that's okay just
ignore it if even the stuff where it
took a super long time to like test it
it was still like one day where if you
do keyword research and you launch a
niche site you may not know that you
picked a bad one until like six months
later or something like that then with
link building you know you hear people
talk about their sites ranking super
fast you hear about the case
where the guys started making 40k within
like two months because he did
scholarship outreach but he left out the
part that it was like an expired domain
and how to age and stuff like that like
there are areas where like we I mean I
do the same thing I'm a marketer I'm
telling you case studies that are
exceptional because it gets your
attention but the caveat is like
everything takes a long time so anyway
the point is people struggle with like
either content or link building like 99%
of the time and usually it's just like
simple persistence to get through it and
constant adjustment so okay very good
question
Adrian pre time is on what's up yeah
winter is is here it's cold I think the
frost is almost melted off my truck at
this point leo says the smear still
doing the same site yes and you're
checking it out now you won't share the
site that's cool yeah on my side we're
not gonna share it because that's not my
style and I don't think it helps
anything the question is does Samara do
much with social given her niche Samara
anything with social here um no I mean
I'm embarrassed in the one I started out
as social but like everything it's got a
learning curve right and there's a lot
of balls in the air and I usually so
many hours in the day right so like I
kind of dropped the ball on that
unfortunately can I imagine Pinterest
for example could be really valuable but
so I've just been focusing on other
things cool
yeah and I think you know if you go the
Facebook route if you have Pinterest if
you go whatever like if you're into
Instagram or what whatever like you just
got to make sure it's the thing that
you're interested in so because at some
point it's going to become a little bit
boring and you know for me like I
learned the SEO side and I've continued
to learn and refine and like I want to
learn more on the SEO side
I don't like social as you know if
people have seen me talk before like I
know like social very much
it is a necessary you know evil in a lot
of the stuff that I do and I just I try
to avoid it it usually sucks me in if I
try and do work I'm trying to improve
that and you know part of what I'm gonna
do is like you know like like many
people I'm gonna try and buy my way out
of the problem by hiring someone who is
actually like interested that can help
me and like provide a filter from it in
just having like a cohesive plan so but
answer your question Leah she hasn't
done much and I have been encouraging
her to focus on the SEO side because
that's what I know nick says do I embed
other people's videos the answer is yes
I don't create my own although I mean I
think that would be like level 2.0 if
you could go in with the keyword
research stuff that I teach and do it on
YouTube for products like you're going
to be like so far ahead of the other
YouTube people that are just creating
videos and they're just trying to push
like their I mean I watch more vlogs
these days and that sort of thing but
they're shooting their vlog and they're
like here's the camera stuff that I use
it works if they have like hundreds of
thousands of subscribers or millions of
subscribers because I have so many views
but generally I mean I think if you can
take our ideas and do it on video like
that's the wave of the future
okay um silver you have been building 30
links from real blogs over six weeks but
you keep it going
yeah just keep at it and these will
they'll be a snowball effect a tipping
point for you camera says you have a
three year old site and a niche in a
small niche you haven't done anything
with it you'll get some will get some
domain Authority since it's three years
old even though in the last three years
you haven't been doing anything doubtful
here's a thing domain Authority is just
like a number from some company it's a
Moz metric so who really cares about Moz
or their da which you are a better
question Cameron is can your site rank
because there's
age on it the question is yeah more that
the answer I would say it may help a
little bit but basically if you haven't
done any work then there's no value
there so if you start doing some work
you may be able to instead of like a
six-month like sandbox maybe it'll be
shorter or something but I haven't never
done that so it is unclear to me so I
don't actually have experience with that
but I would say if you haven't done any
work then you're probably not gonna have
like any benefit on that so the firm in
UK you just signed up for the course
awesome good to have you in really
appreciate it qvt says how can you tell
if the net you're getting into will be
competitive um well you need to check
out the competition and you know you
could look and see you know how big
their sites are how good the content is
you can use tools like SEMRush or age
roughs to see if they get a lot of
traffic and that sort of thing
generally there's going to be some
competition like high competition for
certain keywords the key is to find
keywords that don't have as much
competition so Leila says with a keyword
golden ratio is lower better generally
yes yeah so generally if it's lower than
yeah so it's like 0.2 versus 0.25 yeah
it was probably gonna be a little bit
easier pre tom says I have two questions
I'm doing a lot of blog comments now is
there any issue if I have thousands of
links from blog comments only as long as
they are like manually created blog
comments that will be okay
if there's any kind of automated tool
thing happening that could be bad just
because that will probably have some
unnatural things happening but if you're
doing like real blog comments then it
should be okay
the follow-up question is do you follow
comment love or something while blog
comments I kind of like I favor comment
love often but a lot of times depending
on what I'm trying to do
I'll just go off script I'll do non
comment love blogs and find my own
footprint to find blogs that no one else
is like visiting or trying to do link
building with because it's a less
crowded channel and I have a better
opportunity to build a relationship and
get a guest post with them we'come also
says can you please let me know how to
find good blogs which are not well
monetize slash old school blogs I can
tell you the idea that I would approach
so I would find five to ten of those old
school blogs look for footprints or
common things that you can see as a
trend in those old blogs I don't know
what it would be because I haven't
looked at those but if you study like
what is common then you find your own
footprint this is a good question pre
time this is deep this is how I do my
like like blog commenting campaigns and
guest posting stuff like I'm trying to
find areas where other people aren't
looking because it's just going to be
easier those people are gonna like
answer the emails when they get them
because they're not being harassed by
you know people sending out you know
these automated emails using you know
mail merge programs okay Leila says do I
have to use the plugins to make Amazon
affiliate links on your site nofollow or
can you just insert them like any other
outgoing link so basically you don't
need to it doesn't really matter you can
just insert them the thing is like from
the Google standpoint like they used to
say like hey we don't want you to put
affiliate links as follow links you
should make them nofollow but Google's
that was a few years ago Google's so
smart that now they know what a an
affiliate link is and like they know the
Amazon
philia link so they sort of just say
alright we're not gonna count this is
like a link to boost the rankings of
like Amazon products so I don't I don't
even worry about it some people are much
more I guess they're worried about it so
but I'm not so okay Stephen says what's
your favorite theme for niche sites this
week you went through elegant themes
extra theme and it's awesome so will
Samara what theme do you like I only
have experience thrive um when it's you
know I don't really have anything to
compare to I liked it I liked it the
past tense kind of up to India and added
this new kind of architect editor which
um is enough to drive anyone crazy it's
kind of got a big steep learning curve
and it's you know close reading but um
you know I can only speak for thrive
okay you know and I I've been vocal
about not liking thrive because I've had
so many issues and then I had trouble
with the architect and then getting
support on it as well
but for me I don't think the theme
matters I was just talking to a student
earlier and he was using the WordPress
2017 theme and I was like this thing
looks awesome I love it so I would say
you know you can you in my first I was
like WordPress 2012 so you don't have to
have any kind of like anything fancy and
you know I was kind of a bad like just
you know affiliate or pushing affiliate
products or whatever but I'm getting
like gradually worse because I keep
talking bad about products and stuff
that I don't like however I think that
gives me credibility because I'm not
like pushing garbage telling you you
have to use thrive themes because it's
the best converting and I have all these
options and stuff meanwhile I'm taking
like you know 50 percent commission from
it so I'm not doing any of that
I'm selling my course like crazy right
if you're on the email list you can get
tons of you
but the thing is I I think the theme
doesn't matter it's all the other stuff
you do so alright just even though good
question my main advice about themes is
to pick one learn it well and just use
that all over the place because what you
don't want to do is waste time on the
theme something that actually doesn't
matter you should just put it up the
themes should stay out of the way
so if extra is doing well for you just
stick with it um let's see success
roller coaster says where do you get a
good writer I go to up work I always go
to up work alright
viral news says how do you get
competitors blog comment links with eh
refs um just go to a giraffe's and look
up their backlinks and then that should
do it for you okay
and a quick note I have a hard stop at
the top of the hour so a lot of times
I'll just go on and on with these but
we're going to stop at the top of the
hour and I'm gonna we're gonna do
something a little bit interesting here
so I'm gonna keep answering a couple
questions I'm gonna do rapid fire and
just answer them really quickly here and
then Samara actually has questions for
me right now so we have a we have like
47 people on which is great so as we're
going through here is anyone on the
fence on the course enrollment is open
today but it closes at midnight mountain
time and basically I shut it off right
so you can't enroll after that and there
are no exceptions so at one point I made
exceptions and stuff and then I
regretted it later because people were
just taking advantage of me
so no exceptions closes tonight it's not
like false scarcity but I do want you to
make a decision number one it's
important to make a decision and not you
know just forget about it the second
part is the course has so much
interaction with me actively through the
you know eight weeks of the core
material coming out that I need to have
every one going through it at the same
time so that is exactly why there are
like launch periods enrollment periods
and why there's like no flexibility in
that okay here's the rapid-fire stuff
Kate oh oh I lost a spot here lost my
spot okay Adrian says Samira's website
is a targeting Spain the answer is now
pre Tom says you're trying to find blogs
which are not being targeted like others
old school yes that is very smart for
sure you could email me about it and all
of our news says do I need to use
keywords with Alt alt image tags for
image optimization sure that's a great
idea to do that KB T says do you know
mais competitors that come up in all in
title or natural I usually don't
embracing wellness says when making a
post should we keep the all in title
Amazon links there sorry the number of
Amazon affiliate links to a minimum
you'd like to put 10 plus if it's okay I
usually aim for more like one every like
200 to 400 words or so something like
that here's the thing people think that
if they add a ton of affiliate links in
their post that they're like the
revenues gonna go up that they are all
of a sudden gonna convert better but
like if people don't want to go to
Amazon if you put more links there it
just looks aggressive and you know it
just looks like you're pushing it too
hard
my angle is get the right traffic on
there have few call to actions that are
strong and if the person is actually
interested in there if your copies good
on the page you're gonna click over
there because they want to buy it so
you're never gonna be able to like hit
them over the head with more links and
then like get a benefit on the other
side if you get it if you get a two or
three percent increase or whatever like
your times better spent elsewhere on the
on the other side your site actually can
like drop in rankings if you put too
many affiliate links in it I don't know
how
that is but you know if you want to put
10 plus you just need to make sure your
contents long adrienne is saying if it a
writer is asking me for your website
address should I give it to them it
depends
sometimes it's okay sometimes it's not
you know I have in the past but other
times I haven't so let's see pre time
sense if I face a low conversion rate
this month yeah I have a lot of people
that I'm talking to in the last six
weeks like since after Labor Day
it's going down so not sure why I think
it's a seasonal thing okay
Samira what questions do you have I see
there's others coming and I'll just come
back to a bit I just need to shut up for
a minute
I've never asked yet did you monetize
the other programs aside from Amazon no
only Anza yep is there any reason for
that no need to so like yeah I mean if
there was another product or something
like that it was only available
somewhere else maybe but here's the
thing on Amazon you get a commission for
like everything they buy if I sent them
to a specific vendor who specialized in
some thing and you only get Commission
on that one thing even if you get paid
like 25 percent or something like that
which is absurd most of the time it's
like 10 to 15 it's a little bit higher
but not super high then um I mean you're
only getting credit on one item so just
in general it's not worth my time like
my focus is on Amazon so that's where I
spend my time
um did you notice a change in your
earnings after Amazon changed the
commission structure yes my earnings
dropped by like thirty five percent
it was terrible okay sorry to make yeah
I know I mean it's here's the the thing
about this business model is like I
don't control the traffic side Google
controls that much respect for the
Google side that's why I do why I had
stuff now
and then I don't control the Amazon
stuff I'm just happy to be part of the
part of the group you know so if they
give me a you know a pay cut to reduce
the Commission's and all that stuff
that's fine I'm working with the
constraints that they've given me and
I'm still I'm really good um another
question so I am in this outreach
strategy I'm doing this outreach
strategy and so I'm kind of looking back
and all these blogs that I've left
comments on I kind of wonder if I should
have made a better assessment of them
before leaving comments so for example
now I look at them I've left a couple
comments some kind of making friends
with the bloggers and I think there's no
way in heck they're ever going to
publish a guest post for me I just I
don't see where I fit in and for example
they don't they don't work with Amazon
affiliates right they're not selling
anything it's informational or something
like that is it even worth working on
this relationship or is something that
you really should look at when you begin
that strategy right you want a specific
type of website with comment love yeah
so the answer is before you leave your
first comment you should like take a
little assessment you know and just you
know make that determination if you look
and you see it's like a new site or
something like that and they don't like
it's literally not ever gonna work then
yeah skip it if it's the site that just
looks like a blog that hasn't like
accepted them and maybe I don't know if
you could if you could like envision
that they would publish your guest post
then maybe you do go for it
but yeah filter room as you go and the
thing is you know like if you leave the
comment and you actually here's a good
here's a good example like I've
commented on like sites that are authors
of like New York Times bestselling books
like they're not gonna let me guest post
on their site unless I like somehow know
them personally cuz they just have such
a big following so it's just not gonna
work out at all so you have to like you
know maybe you leave one comment because
it's not gonna be a bad thing to have a
link from that relevant post or whatever
but when it comes down to it like you're
not gonna be able to get a guest post so
no need to like keep nurturing the
relationship there okay is there
something that you could offer them in
exchange to ever offer something upfront
when you ask them against those what are
you payments or something like that like
I don't know you know when you submit
the article for example if you include a
couple affiliate links for them and
along with your link to your affiliate
content right that kind of you know it's
reciprocity like you said before so for
a blog that doesn't monetize with Amazon
could you offer them a contextual link
from an article or something like that
is there something else you'd be Berger
with or um yeah I mean you can yeah if
they're not part of the Amazon program
then that's not going to be valuable for
them but with other stuff I don't know I
mean sure if like use whatever tools you
have available to you
I typically haven't like done that but
just as far as like exchanging links
like the reciprocal link kind of thing I
would avoid it if you can
here's the thing if you have like you
know a fraction if you have like two
percent of your backlinks or like you
know you link to one post and they link
to another post that's probably fine
well you don't want to have is like like
15 20 30 percent that are like that so
if it's like one-off that's probably
fine like it's actually a natural thing
to happen right like I linked to niche
pursuits niche pursuits links to my blog
like that's normal right I link to them
several times spencer links to me
several times totally normal so as long
as this just not like habit um another
kind of related question do you once use
for the guest post you continue the
relationship beyond that we do want
another link from them or you move on
and you try to find someone else
typically I just keep like moving
forward right
so I do Sprint's of work typically so
I'll just keep moving forward because
I'm trying to get like a set of guest
posts done however it is great to
continue those relationships because you
know you may have another post that
you're gonna push in the future so maybe
once you finish your campaign right you
share some of their stuff on social and
just say hey and you know tag them right
so they know I like share their stuff on
social like every couple weeks or
something like that everyone loves to
have their stuff shared right even if
you don't have a big followin
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