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hey what's going on

welcome to the Doug show I'm Doug

Pennington here and I'm with my lovely

beautiful wife Elizabeth how are you

today I'm doing good how are you doing

really well today we are going to talk

about the Lion King again now Tiger King

we're talking about Tiger King this is a

bonus episode so we're gonna talk about

life a little bit and some philosophy

and Tiger King Joe exotic if you have

not started watching it there's gonna be

some spoilers in here but before we get

into any of those details I need to send

it over to my guest Elizabeth they were

gonna say guest wife that's permanent

wife so I asked Doug if I could start

this episode with some clarification

from some of my comments on the last

bonus episode I think I was coming

across very judgmental and or surly and

that was not my intention I said

something about Trump supporters and I

wanted to clarify we're pretty

apolitical in this house

we're not pro Trump contra we're kind of

just anti-politician and so if you are a

trump supporter good for you if you're

not a trump supporter good for you like

good for you for being involved and

taking a stand in some capacity so I did

a little bit of research when I said I

think I said something like these are

Trump supporters what I meant was when

he won the election it was sort of with

the Forgotten voter I did a little

research before we started it was small

city rural less educated folks and I

think both of the main political parties

tended to cater more to the cities and

higher educated people so that is what I

meant when I said these are the Trump

supporters they're sort of the forgotten

forgotten voters I actually have no idea

which political party is more pro or con

big cat

so they all actually maybe Democratic

supporters because that you know that

who is who feeds their legislation so I

just wanted to I just wanted to clarify

that that does that good Doug yeah I

mean you didn't clear any of this before

you said it but I guess we have a little

bit of a political kind of podcast now a

little spin on that so that's cool with

me and then I also said something about

low IQ which Doug took big weather what

am I looking for

he didn't like that big offense I was

like hey I got a represent as a low IQ

person myself no and he made the point

he's like these people in the show are

actually there you can't say they have

low IQs they're very smart

look at these industries and these

businesses they've built up and so we

talked about that a little bit more off

the air and I don't think I really meant

low IQ I think I meant like bad

decision-making so I think I would make

an argument and I think I'm gonna stand

firm on this if you get into a cage with

a grown tiger and pet it that's

questionable

maybe not bad questionable decision

making and you know when Joe exotic does

his TV shows and talks about how he's

gonna kill Carol or he's gonna stick a

venomous snake in her mailbox I would

also say that's a questionable decision

to put it on the airwaves so I am taking

that back I have no idea what any of

their IQs are but I would say there's

some questionable decision making across

the board with the main characters in

tiger King also a pretty big accusation

I would say maybe we could say alleged

questionable decision making is that one

thing I learned in my corporate gig to

kind of tie this together is politics

and you know just really not making a

stand on anything

I I'm with you but I think I'm gonna

hold firm unquestionable decision-making

- there's definitely some some

questionable decision making that's

going on in in this program stones are

thrown alright let's get into it today

so what else you got what I want to get

so getting into it we watched season

three in season four and as a woman I'm

also gonna go with questionable decision

making

Carol is 20 years old and a random guy

shows up at a van and is like hey honey

are you upset do you want to get in and

he's 42 and she gets in the van now the

story in the show was that he put a gun

on the guide on the passenger seat and

said you can hold this on me while we

drive around but questionable

decision-making right then and that's

how she began the relationship with her

lovely not first second husband who has

now gone missing spoiler alerts there so

yes a questionable decision making there

as well and I what was over the ages 42

and 20 yeah yeah kind of crazy and I

mean Carol described her you know home

situation was pretty bad growing up she

had a lot of adversity I would say and

she left home in like 15 or whatever so

she was distraught and it sounded I mean

they even said in there like they spent

the night together the first night and

that's right and then what I forget the

guys name but missing husband missing

husband number Dooley he was a he was a

the missing husband and he was a

millionaire and he left his family and

shacked up with Carol so yeah so we were

trying to remember what the episodes

were about we watched him last night and

I believe episode 3 was all about Carol

and her husband her second husband the

millionaire who just disappeared one day

and did she do it did she not do it

what's the situation there

and she seems she seems kind of shrewd

and like she's not quite telling the

truth and as you I mean they do a great

job with the documentary where they give

you four sides of the story and each one

you're like oh but what about X whatever

you were thinking of that is literally

the next thing they go to it's pretty

amazing how they drive the narrative

exactly where your mind is going and one

of the questions they did not answer

so they outline the missing person case

they talk about how again we forget his

name but husband number two the

disappeared guy that was a millionaire

so husband number two got up in the

middle of the night he was gonna go to

Costa Rica he went to the airport

he had a apparently revoked pilot's

license so he was always flying rogue

literally under the radar literally

under the radar and he wasn't filing any

of his flight plans which I'm sure is

some sort of you know federal offense

and some capacity so he was flying

illegally so he went to the airport

there was a man there his van abandoned

perfect for the missing person story

however they never said was her plane

missing was there noise

was there anything right I mean there's

probably even if he didn't file a proper

what do you call it flight plan or

whatever you have to document with the

FAA they never mentioned is there a

fucking plane missing like okay like the

Vans there did they throw their or did

they throw a plane in the ocean right so

there couldn't I don't know yeah I there

couldn't have been a plane missing

because if there was a plane missing I

feel like you would say it there's a

plane missing but if there's a plane not

missing why didn't they say there's no

claimants it was a weird it was a weird

piece of information that they did not

share while they drive the narrative

really well great storytellers and we're

into it we're like what happens next

these people are fucking nuts but it's

like alright why even tell us that there

was a missing missing or sorry why did

they tell us the van was abandoned but

they didn't tell us anymore because

count the planes you know how many were

in there another part from that so we

went back and forth the whole episode

I'm like shouldn't do it no she had to

have done it oh well maybe she didn't

you know I don't want to she's crazy but

that doesn't mean she killed her husband

and but um she didn't have any sort of

memorial for him I mean come on

the man has kids he was your husband

like you don't have to do a blowout

funeral but have some sort of memorial

after he's declared dead do something to

make it look like you care but the fact

that she didn't do anything super weird

super super weird and the will stuff oh

yeah the will remember that oh but

before we even get into that if you hear

any sort of weird noises that's Georgie

I did take off her collar today but

she's still a very vibrant full energy

lady so he was a bit of a tomcat

apparently I mean he left his not just

his wife but he left his family when he

was 42 to shack up with Carol and then

they started their own I don't know if

that a kid but they lived together and

things seemed potentially I have no idea

but apparently he was he was cheating

and he always had cheated and the kind

of dude that would pick up a 20 year old

20 20 year old while he's 42 so a you

know he's senior by 22 years on that one

someone his daughter's age that pulls up

has a gun on the seat and is like hey

you can hold the gun on me why don't we

go for a ride

well that's kind of weird I don't

remember the exact point but I mean I

think your point was he was cheating on

someone in Costa Rica too he had another

girlfriend

yes that's right so he had some action

going on in in Costa Rica and yeah sure

well Elizabeth asked me to pause that

and she started coughing she has a bit

of a runny nose and a fever

how do you feel no there's so many

problems with the kovat thing but the

problem for me is I have allergies which

makes my maze

means my nose runs a little post nasal

drip and so I cough and and I know

everybody thinks I've I'm not sick I

just there's pollen in the air but yes

so yeah he was tomcatting around but

then that goes you know he left his

first wife why not leave his second wife

why does he have to disappear if he

wants to get away and we've gone back

and forth on that one we probably don't

want to belabor this too much because

there's more interesting things to talk

about I think but um super weird super

sketchy potentially doctored wills

where's the plane no Memorial her

brother was in law enforcement what else

I think the doctor wills are not

doctored was she obtained the first

wills and she had a power of attorney so

she changed things on her husband's

behalf basically removing power of

attorney from like a more neutral party

which was I guess it's secretary so

that's completely sketchy and she was

you know I mean I guess the the law

enforcement the police that showed up

when they were breaking in they couldn't

arrest her because she's the wife of the

owner so that was fine I guess is that

what was that the yeah I thought I don't

know they went in they like cut locks

they got into all sorts of things I

thought it was a totally doctor well I

thought it was a totally fake will

because remember the first line that

says or disappeared so I thought that

they totally I thought she totally wrote

out a new well and then somehow forged

signature or something oh I didn't think

it was I thought it was legal but she

obviously went in destroyed the old ones

and prepared new ones cuz it literally

said you know what you you mentioned the

disappeared thing not death not

unexpected death but disappearance

that's weird and we we joked because

it's really funny about you know

murdering your husband and stuff like

that I was like oh I'm gonna prepare a

well I'm definitely gonna put the

disappeared thing in there just you know

had a little mystique I'm gonna have a

memorial you know a huge huge party a

lot of beer and if you're a millionaire

a multimillionaire

yeah please do put that in there I'm

just kidding that's weird anything else

about Carole and what were all the the

theories there was um fed to the Tigers

yeah fed to the Tigers which I I mean

that seems like a viable thing to me

there was the meat grinder there was

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like a sump pump or sewage thing and

they were like we just need to get into

that some sort of sewage thing under one

of the buildings that was being

constructed at the test subject a septic

tank that's the word I was looking for

yeah there was the septic tank but I

don't know they haven't I don't think

they've gotten into a ton of detail

about the properties of any of these

people but I mean I'm sure they're vast

and if you wanted to hide something on

your property it probably wouldn't be

that difficult and you were sort of

unsure if Tigers or other animals could

eat and digest the bones or whatever and

I'm well I have no idea and I didn't

research it at all but I imagined they

could probably come pretty close and if

there were if there was like evidence

left behind there's also like so many

other bones out there just laying around

for them to for them being the

investigators to actually like go and

test the

DNA for all that where you're like Oh or

they could have just like gotten the

leftover bones the remains after they

were processed through the lion or is

the tiger what do I keep saying line

through a tiger or whatever you know you

get alligators out there crocodiles some

other stuff you can get those bones

throw them somewhere else yeah it's it's

it's a pretty crazy story for sure

anything else on this episode 3 what

else happened there I don't think so I

think I think going over to episode 4 is

probably good so the episode was let's

pause here for a second because we're

supposed to talk about our life a little

bit too well we are what do you want to

talk about what we already did about our

wills how I would have a memorial for

you who's a podcast so see er I mean

you're just a guest here ok god we

turned in our keys for the apartment

today so it's a big deal we've been

renting for a year we kind of like to

rent a place so we can understand the

neighborhoods in the town that we're

moving to and often we apparently do a

pretty good job choosing the apartment

and the neighborhood the last two times

that we've moved and purchased a place

we we live like a quarter-mile away so

we turned in our keys today which was a

huge deal for for me because for about

three months we had open loops we had

all these things where okay we need to

order this we need to close out that and

the apartment had a lot of things we had

to clean we had to move stuff out we had

to get other materials and just move

them over here so we turned in our keys

today so a lot of stuff we've been

working on for about three three and a

half months done huge weight lifted off

of us yeah big big deal in the past ten

days or so specifically it's been going

back and forth from the house the

apartment moving things just like Ducks

head closing loops and so

there's no reason to go back to the

apartment we rode our bikes from our

storage unit over here and that's it

yeah it's exciting

and now just closing closing the loops

here but yeah it's it's very exciting

kind of can't believe that we bought

this house what's your favorite part so

far oh goodness I think my favorite part

so far I was gonna say the birds and the

bird feeders that's kind of fun getting

to see the birds out there again that's

the G rated favorite part the non G

rated favorite part is that our shower

is like a glass door right in front of

the mirror in the bathroom so there's

kind of no way to avoid and if you need

to be in the bathroom while someone's

taking a shower just a just a big show

and so I think that's gonna be

interesting as we move forward maybe we

can frost that glass I don't know if we

need to I mean how many people do you

think you could fit in there more than

you would think six and be able to bathe

you know you can get six and you know

you have a room to move around as a

human loofah if you've got six in there

you just turn the water on and you just

shimmy around oh yeah that HL yeah

what's your favorite part so far I like

the kitchen a ton I cook a lot of food

and the kitchen's great so there's a gas

range and it has like one of those

middle burners so there's a griddle

there I haven't done any sort of smashed

burgers yet but I will be soon

and I mean it's a nice stove it's a

slide-in there's a backsplash the places

that we lived in the past were either

starter homes or my first place was a

kind of a shit show it was from the

1920s and just barely renovated really

in rough shape kind of a wreck and I I

wish I would have spent the time to like

learn how to read

made a home and all that stuff and funny

enough I had a gas range at that place

but it was literally the cheapest one

you can get you could buy it at like

Lowe's or Home Depot for like 300 bucks

cheapest crappiest range you could

possibly get but it was gas and I mean

the place was a wreck so I didn't worry

about being rough on the home but this

place is very nice and you know new

appliances the other part I'll give you

two because it's my show here it's so

well insulated this is a highly

energy-efficient home it's a brand new

build here and apparently this builder

is really into having an

energy-efficient home I don't know what

the Mears rating means exactly but the

way that the salespeople who we could

definitely trust described it to us was

like if you had a Muir's rating of like

500 like that was pretty good a few

years ago and slowly they've improved

the building process so I think this

place is rated at like a 51 or something

like that which apparently is like a 5

plus which sounds totally made-up I

think it is what I can tell you is they

use spray and insulation

so it's whisper quiet in here and like

we can't hear noise generally like

outside the home unless you're like

right by the window I will mention that

yesterday and a little bit of a rough

time first sort of day working in my my

office I have a proper office and they

were putting up the fence next door and

we share one wall over there one side of

the fence and I'd like a chainsaw and a

lot of other power equipment it was

extremely loud and I had a kind of an

important call so I had to go to a room

across the house just to get some quiet

but other than that is whisper quiet and

luckily the defense is a one time deal

like I don't think they're gonna be

putting up another fence in the near

term so the weirdest thing about the

fence it was

you just I don't know just look like

your sort of stereotypical construction

workers putting out the fence whatever

that means to you that's kind of what it

was but I'm pretty sure whatever your

stereotype of a construction worker it

wouldn't involve them playing polka

music for two hours straight while

they're putting up the fence it was the

most bizarre music choice that just went

on loop it wasn't like because I think

there's some variation to polka music

but it felt like one song played for two

hours can you like make the noise with

your mouth like sort of what it sounds

like it was just like I don't remember

what it's like I don't know it's

something like that it's really solid

4/4 beat I mean I mean it was catchy and

I kept hearing it plus whatever you know

they had a framing nailer gun or

whatever and the compression thing plus

the chainsaw plus some other stuff and

it was just like loud plus you heard the

music and I was like trying to think and

prepare for some things and I was like

oh god damn it you were pretty mad you

were gonna go out there and ask him and

it was like 4:30 I'm like come on man

I'm like are you guys gonna finish the

fucking fence like what's going on out

here I mean they're just hard-working

dudes out there doing their job working

polka loving construction workers yeah

yeah and they did a great job and I was

like yeah you're right now I was I had

some software issues fucking software so

I was like trying to configure something

or other and I was like restarting my

machine and doing this and doing that

and then I did nothing right I like

restarted I walked around my machine I

petted it nicely you know you got a

treat your machine like a lady and then

it worked I was like well I didn't

actually change anything it was just all

that you know treating it like a lady

yeah sometimes changing some things

would help you're treating a lady like a

lady just just saying like the computer

wants a change of scenery or a nice

dinner

what are we talking about yes yes yes as

soon as she wants a compliment here and

there yeah speaking of like a change of

scenery and a nice dinner I was skyping

with a co-worker and asking a co-worker

who's in his 20s and asking when like

when do we think this social distancing

is gonna lift and things can go back to

normal

who's this 20 year old who are you

talking to what's going on here and he

says he thinks that they're going to let

like young uns like kids and younger

people or whatever like stop social

distancing and be out sooner but like he

likes to say that I'm one of the at-risk

old people but like the elderly are

gonna have to social distance for longer

so that's how he thinks they're gonna

phase it out which I don't know based on

what I didn't ask

interesting I mean he's only 20 so I

mean I don't know if I trust what he

says all right can we talk about episode

four now yeah what's going on with

Episode four so according to my memory

episode four sort of focused on the

lawsuit and the fallout between the

lawsuit between Carol and Joe and there

was some super interesting stuff in that

episode oh yeah like the copy right yeah

I was very interested there were two big

areas that I was like oh this is

interesting

one was the SEO so they talked about SEO

and if you're listening to this check

out YouTube I may do a podcast episode I

may do a YouTube video and a blog post

just of the SEO aspects of Joe exotic

and the crazy shit he was doing pretty

cool I'm gonna do an in-depth analysis

so dude check it out but I was like oh

this is like SEO 101 they were kind of

battling out there on the Internet

by the way both of them were sort of

ahead of the curve as far as producing

content and trying to build a social

following they saw the potential and

they both doubled down

in a lot of ways I think there like to

bring politics back into it they're like

Democrats and Republicans all right

what are you scoffing at you're the one

that brought politics into this but they

need each other they said as much in the

documentary like they both kind of have

cults they have followers and for a cult

you need to have like a common enemy you

need to have a mindset and there's a

couple other things yeah their feud was

helping both of them become like more

famous yeah yeah in like it's kind of

weird but there's a podcast episode by

Freakonomics where do they talk about

the duopoly of the political system in

the u.s. so if you're not located in the

US you can still check out that episode

but it totally makes sense it's like

Coke and Pepsi I can't think of any

other examples you got Joe and Carol and

those are the two main ones that I know

of but basically they meet each other

and they both grew because they opposed

each other and I'm sure they I mean it

sure seems like they didn't like each

other very much but super interesting

with the SEO the second part was the

copyright infringement which I I don't

know that we got all the details law can

be a little bit boring a little bit

legalese and I am glad that they didn't

give us all the details but it sure

seemed like Joe got busted on some

smaller things versus like some of the

bigger aspects now I think the copyright

issues that he introduced bless you the

copyright issues that he introduced by

sort of mimicking what carol was doing a

big cat rescue is very interesting

definitely confusing and I think they

probably could have busted him on that

but it was very easy for her to get him

on images that she owned the copyright

for that they were using over and over

again even after like the lawsuit was in

place

so it's sure sounded like you know it's

like tax evasion right they got Al

Capone on tax evasion that was the

easiest thing they didn't get him on the

racketeering and the other whatever else

he was doing but they got him on tax

evasion cuz he even launder as money

well well and it was disappointing to me

just the way our legal system is set up

Carol had so much money and really it

seemed to me like she didn't even have

to win she didn't have to get him on

anything she could have just bled him

dry by keeping him in court for years

and years and years and she had the

extra seems that she had the extra

income to be able to put those resources

to it and he didn't and that's I mean

that's a little bit upsetting now you

know she won she had good points but

just I think there are other examples

that we've seen just in other industries

but if you've got someone that's got

enough money they can just slowly bleed

you dry with lawsuits they could keep it

rolling yeah and there's there's two two

things I'll bring up before I grab a

beer that way you'll be able to talk for

a second here but Carol won the lawsuit

so Joe made some mistakes it was easier

to prove certain things because she

owned the copyright clearly for certain

images she sued him on those images and

then he was screwed so that's one aspect

but there was a reporter from one of the

news I guess news channels over in Tampa

and she was like I can't believe that

Carol actually tried to get the money so

I guess a lot of times though there will

be some sort of settlement Joe didn't

have the you know cash on hand to pay 1

million dollars right yeah it was a

seven-figure settlement he didn't have a

million bucks but she actually tried to

collect and essentially that would like

bankrupt him

put the zoo under and couldn't do

anything with it so that's one aspect

the second is that introduced an

opportunity for scammers to come into

play

yes and so the episode the episode ends

with there's a new sort of main

character named Jeff lo we believe sort

of the I don't know maybe a little bit

of a smaller figure in the tiger Empire

and he's very charismatic and Joe seems

like he really likes someone wants to be

his friend and at the end of the episode

again spoiler if you're not there

episode 4 at the end of the episode

Jeff's like oh we'll just put your zoo

in my name and then we can protect it

from Carol and I think they lead into

and that's how Joe lost his zoo just

again I think this is where I went to

like the questionable decision making

yeah yeah it was it was upsetting

I think and disturbing to just see see

all of this go go south for me and to

tie into you know more internet

marketing kind of stuff

Jeff Lo is that Rob Lowe's brother by

the way probably yes I don't think you

know Rob Lowe is just a beautiful man

you know he's so funny as well and he

just has everything going on but what

are your thoughts on Rob Lowe I don't

want to talk about Rob Lowe I want to

talk about Jeff flo-jo low so before

before I talk about Jeff flow I did grab

another beer for the people that care

I'm drinking good night by Oskar Blues

which is located over in Lyons Colorado

it's a brewery that I went to even back

in 2003 when I was driving back and

forth from Boulder to Estes Park I'm

just gonna pop this open here okay what

do you have to say about Jeff flow cuz

then I want to go back to Joe so that

you know some more things to say about

Joe

so Jeff Lowe came in really flashy he

had a Ferrari or Lamborghini for who's a

Ferrari so he was driving a Ferrari

around Oklahoma real flashy he and his

wife came in his wife was a little

younger than him and they said that they

were swingers and everyone was just so

impressed with with the Jeff was he in

Vegas was that like a Vegas originally

and all the girls in his room and stuff

like that I don't know if he was from

Vegas but they went to Vegas so they

would take Tigers baby Tigers to Vegas

in the suitcase yeah they would put

Tigers in a fucking suitcase go through

the airport fly with a tiger in the

suitcase little kittens basically no no

no we don't know that they went through

the airport like that but that's how

they got him into the casinos okay fair

enough yeah they could have taken

whatever but yeah that's how they got

him in the casinos they put him they sho

put him in a little roller bag and then

once they get up into the floor anyway

and they they mentioned that apparently

these kittens of you know big exotic

cats are chick magnets and they would

have these big parties and all this

stuff so he basically there's a lot of

internet marketers that they'll rent a

car they'll rent a helicopter a private

jet just a lot of bullshit

a lot of flashy stuff and really it's

just rented they may or may not be

wealthy who knows some of them may be

you know it's okay to rent a place and

check it out or rent a product that you

really want to check out but this Jeff

flow like also rented a mansion invited

all the Joe exotic crew over at least

Joe and they were hanging out quite a

bit

Joe also needed some money for legal

fees so Jeff kind of check for 35k he's

like how much do you need wrote him a

check gave it to him and really I mean

he'd built trust through the things that

he was doing but the scam part is like

Elizabeth said

at the end of the day he was like hey

things are getting fucked up here put it

in my name that is going to force Carol

to re initiate all these lawsuits and

it'll slow things down it will cost her

more money and it'll give us more time

so he signed it all over yeah crazy very

very crazy and up until maybe this past

episode I've found Joe to be amusing

interesting like we've said he was kind

of a trendsetter and some of this stuff

he was a hustler he maybe didn't come

from much and then he built up this

empire he works hard

he's a showman yeah the showman his

employees seem dedicated to him you know

I don't we don't really know what the

situation is obviously they're not I

think we were seeing rats and like a

drawer so they're not they're not living

pretty but they they seem dedicated to

him so there's a lot of things that are

interesting and impressive and he's kind

of funny right the way he's sort of

needling Carol and you know some of the

stuff is over-the-top but he but he's

also he's amusing he's funny but I think

after this last episode he did a few

things that I'm kind of made me dislike

him one of the things speaking of Jeff

Lowe apparently he was putting things

into his parents name and not really

explaining that to him and I think it

was his niece and the documentary who

mentioned that that he basically screwed

his parents so I was like that's not

real cool and then they just showed I

thought a heartbreaking clip he's in the

midst of you know running out of money

and baby tigers are you know whatever

the first 13 weeks or whatever the week

is that's when they make all the money

and you need to have these baby tigers

and they show a tiger that's giving

birth and it appears in the clip that he

takes the tiger from the mom like you

know minutes after she per 30 seconds

his bananas and it's this tiny little

baby tiger and even he and the clip is

like everybody calmed down it's fine and

I thought there's no freaking way that

this is fine or that this is right you

know even dog breeders you know if you

get a purebred dog they don't let you

take it for like six or eight weeks so

that that really upset me the way you

know that he brought his parents

potentially into financial ruin upset me

and then you know potentially he rcent

his own place to get rid of evidence

which is fine in and of itself maybe but

all of that guy's the the man who'd been

working on the documentary with him for

all these years all of his footage was

gone how was that Mia that fine wait

wait I mean no whatever whoever said it

on fire was definitely that was not cool

no I mean arsons not cool I guess but if

it's just arson that's affecting you I

think that's different than arson that's

affecting other people and didn't it

kill all the alligators I was gonna say

there were seven alligators in there so

no yeah regardless I mean you're

intentionally like killing animals for

no I forgot about the noodles yeah yeah

and were we're animal lovers by the way

we rescue our dog so she rescues us and

in our original original dog Brody

which the longtime fans know no old

Brody he was like five years old Georgie

was like four when we got her so we're

definitely big fan big fans of like

rescue animals and that sort of thing

yeah I forgot that there were alligators

in there yeah not and not cool not cool

so yeah I I am no longer I think sort of

casually amused by by what's going on

with with Joe and just his whole

personality in his antics I'm yeah yeah

and apparently bankrupt

is bankrupted his parents because he put

stuff in their name so they were a party

to the lawsuit

apparently Carroll tried to sue like any

person who was you know able to be sued

legally into into the lawsuit or

separate lawsuits or however it works

and yeah his parents were like were

we're broke we don't have anything

Carole's coming after us I'm sure they

only have the information the Joe's

bringing to them which is probably how

they ended up like signing things into

their name and you know Joe Joe really

kind of screwed them over yeah we'll see

it's interesting like like I think we've

mentioned we do a really good job of not

looking up news stories when we're

watching programs like this because we

don't want anything polluted but I would

say after for for sorry I would say

after four episodes I'm not sure that

Joe's in jail on a murder-for-hire

against Carroll because it could have

been against this new guy Jeff or

somebody could have framed him or yeah I

just don't know if I feel like it seems

that straightforward and never is it's

pretty crazy and again like like I

mentioned earlier the narrative that

they go through and the complexity to

pull together all the footage is amazing

I am just floored of I mean they they

seem to interview people constantly and

they have so much footage and then they

have to figure out how to put it

together in a in a way that like tells

that story it's crazy and I mean like we

talked about before it's blowing up we

kept hearing about it and we're like all

right fine we'll watch it yep and after

the last episode I was like who is the

tiger King yeah Joe's the tiger King

they actually have him with a throne in

one of these two episodes saying I'm the

tiger king so yeah that's that's bad on

me

yeah do we talk about that in the in the

recording yeah yeah I was like obviously

a Joey I think we did yes you're like

what's wrong with you you're stupid who

else who else is it gonna be well he's

in jail he's dethroned so I don't know

who's the tiger Prince huh all right

yeah yeah he was the heir to the throne

yes the heir to the tiger throne all

right so what do you think is gonna

happen in the next episode which we may

watch tonight I honestly I have no I

have no idea but they sure led into this

jet this new Jeff character and how

that's gonna make things fall apart

what do you think is gonna happen yeah I

was trying to remember the cliffhanger

that they they put us in and I guess it

was like just like well you know what

they put it in my name so I don't know

what you want me to do

so yeah very interesting I mean

everybody's just trying to do the best

they can

are they I think all the people in this

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