Hey, Miles Beckler here, milesbeckler.com in this video I'm going to discuss why I
have left Clickfunnels and I'm also going to explain where I moved my
membership system to now that I've left Clickfunnels. So about a year year and a
half ago I joined click funnels in order to move and migrate and kind of grow my
membership system loved the funnel aspect loved the ability to test funnels
quickly and to get my landing pages my sales pages up relatively quickly but
foremost the their members area doesn't allow you much if any customization at
all there's no deep linking URLs to the different modules for the different
lessons and overall it was just a poor user experience on the search function
for example crashed it I reached out to their support I will work on it at some
point never got done another problem that arrives with some of my paying
customers we're getting walked out of their membership system Clickfunnels
for some reason with an active membership subscription would simply
cancel their access in click funnels even though they were still on monthly
subscription I actually sat down I physically took my laptop and went to
their support at the click funnel seminar that I went to and I sat down to
show them because they weren't responding via email they were saying oh
that's on your end oh that's not our problem the general passed the buck kind
of support that really aggravates me as a customer finally I sat down with them
they did a temporary fix it was never fully resolved and the final straw that
broke the camel's back was when I found out that I have dozens possibly hundreds
of people who had access to my membership content who weren't on an
active stripe subscription their subscription either canceled they
canceled it or a payment failed and for some reason click phone did not pick
this up and continued to give them access some people for over a year I've
already found about seven or eight people who had access for over a year
it's four hundred and forty four dollars per year per person so I've already
found thousands of dollars that have been kind of dropped by click funnels
and from my kind of research it looks like there's dozens if not hundreds of
more people in that same sort of situation so
I decided that was it once it hit my pocketbook and it was financially
affecting me it was worth it to move and moving websites is and content
management systems is always really challenging if generally speaking a last
resort to move everything over and at that point it became a last resort so
where did I move to I moved to a wordpress-based
system I realized that in dealing with their support and in dealing with their
lack of support actually and the "Pass the Buck" mentality they had I need to be in
a situation where I could hire developers and I could essentially be in
control I need to be the captain of my ship I don't want to be a passenger on
someone else's ship that's going in a destination that might not be where I
want it to go so that's why I went to a wordpress-based system the theme I'm
using is thrive themes and thrive themes is fantastic for building the funnels on
the front end but you also have what's called their apprentice system if you've
never seen it actually I'll put a link below in the video or you could google
thrive apprentice system and what it does is it allows you to create a module
and lesson based layout so now I have different modules in different lessons
for all of the products that get opened up for my customers when they become
members I've got a search function now I can deeply people directly to the
lessons that I want them to go to plus I'm working on adding some really cool
functionality like a forum that's going to be inside of there and just really
playing with the look and making a great user experience you know at $37 a month
even though that's only what, a dollar twentyfive per day I still take that very
seriously when our customers are paying that and I want to make sure that
they're getting the best possible experience that they can and that's why
we've literally spent over two and half months and there were 10 different
people who worked on it hired migration specialists my team I have my wife and I
literally hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars have gone into this
migration so it was a well thought out idea and on my shopping cart I'm using
thrive cart which is a very simple shopping cart that allows me to run my
funnel which is an opt-in to a dollar trial to a membership to an annual
upsell I have a video on that funnel that's working
very well for us right now and for the actual access I'm using active campaign
and active member 360 active campaign is an email management system that has a
tagging based system it's similar to confusion soft but it's very very simple
to use and it's very user friendly and their plug-in active number 360 uses the
tags that are inside of active campaign to decide whether a specific user has
access to certain content so a new user will get access to week one after
they're through their week trial they get access to month one whereas a user
who's six months in after they make their next payment they get access to
month number seven and all of that drip content is done very intelligently
through active campaign and active member 360 so this move was actually an
email service provider move for me it was a platform move a content management
system it was a steam move it was intense to make this move and I'm so
happy and I'm so thankful that I've made the move you're building a membership
system I highly highly recommend you consider creating an option that is not
based on clickfunnels they have let me down in a major way and it has cost me
literally thousands of dollars and months of my time in backpedaling plus I
had people who were getting access to my stuff for free and as a membership kind
of site owner that's that's the part you know quick funnels doesn't accidentally
give their software to people for free so I don't know why it didn't work for
me but it sure didn't so and their support wasn't really there to help me
with it so witness click funnels a good idea right like I don't want this to be
all trash talking about click funnels clicks tunnels is essentially a step
above leadpages if you are kind of trying to get your opt-in page going if
you're trying to sell an e-book if you have a simple course that has three
modules and four lessons in each module it's going to work perfect one-time
products it works really well for that kind of stuff it was the annual and the
monthly and the rebilling system that was required for the monthly membership
that really made it not very well feasible all in all I
think thrive themes is a better option because you have full control I does
require some WordPress skills and possibly bringing on a wordpress
developer luckily you can find WordPress developers in the Philippines in India
in Eastern Europe for five to ten dollars per hour and they're really good
at what they do upwork.com is a great place to find them
so if you were curious why I left click funnels if you were curious what my new
marketing stack looks like there you have it I'm happy to answer any of your
questions in here at this point the membership system is working brilliantly
I'm really excited about the future I'm now on a platform that I can continue to
add functionality and that's really important to me and it's really
important to my users I feel to have that kind of best possible customer and
user experience they can on click funnels that just simply look there but
on thrive themes and WordPress I'm in control and that's where I feel like I
need to be this is a long term business I'm building and I take it very very
seriously and that's why after literally months of wondering am I going to move
is it worth it God for me a lot of work I did commit to the process and boy on
the other end I'm thankful I did so if you're just starting membership system
consider going straight to thrive themes and a wordpress plugin to manage that
access I love active campaign and active number 360 it's working really really
well and that's all for this video so I hope to have more positive exciting
stuff about what I'm doing my funnels I just launched another new funnel myself
over the weekend why not launch another funnel after you just finish your
membership system maybe I'm not crazy workaholic maybe I'm just excited to get
this stuff out and I'll update you on that as it comes thanks again for
watching give me a thumbs up here in YouTube if you liked the video give me
questions for me leave them in the comments I'm happy to answer your
questions if you'd like to share what your marketing stack is I'd love to know
what you're working with and how you built your systems your funnels and your
membership program and finally go ahead and subscribe so you can get those
videos when they come out thanks again free time have a great day
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