Samsung foldgate is here - WAN Show April 19, 2019 #Helpful Post

welcome to the wind show you guys we've

got a great show in store for you today

I hope and of course the main topic of

conversation has got to be Galaxy folds

they're breaking we wouldn't know we

don't have one and the soonest I might

be able to get my hands on a galaxy fold

is probably the week after next but hey

for everyone who has a Samsung USP our

contact it doesn't seem like they're

really getting a much better experience

than I am anyway we've got that we've

got Sony internally regulating the

sexual content in their games and UK

wants to ban the like button which is

which is great also facial recognition

to become a standard in which US

airports backup which is great oh yeah

well we're gonna have a real

conversation about that I think won't we

first let's go ahead roll the intro

slice cracks his knuckles let's go we

all know how that will actually hold on

a second you might not be able to bring

yourself to hit me no I might win yeah

you know actually I was thinking about

this right right before we actually

started talking you were thinking about

fighting I was thinking we haven't had a

wine show since the roast

oh we had last time you and I were on

the way and sure together was broast day

yeah I hosted without you then you

hosted without me oh that's hilarious

yeah so that's not related that's not

related at all we actually had a blast

at the roast yeah oh I'm gonna frame

anyway anyway we have a new we have a

new year's resolution for for wine show

it's a new year somewhere we are going

to do like a little bit of news before

we get into just biessing so if you want

to talk about the roast no but why don't

we get straight into the galaxy fold

screens breaking so thank you blade of

grass for posting on the forum in

summary what's going on is for those who

have not seen it in the news quite

literally everywhere what's going on is

Samsung is shipping their first ever

device with a folding screen so it's the

Galaxy fold and review units went out

probably I guess just under a week ago

which is kind of remarkable especially

considering how many of the people who

have review units have had them break or

otherwise no longer work so far kind of

surprised I didn't catch this so there's

a couple sort of controversy there's a

couple sub controversies here one of

them is that the Galaxy fold has a

screen protector on it that looks an

awful lot like those things you're

supposed to you know peel off but if you

consult the manual actually it's

specified that you are not supposed to

remove it because it can make it more

prone to failure now a couple of the

people who have had their galaxy folds

break including marques mkbhd and Mark

Garmin of Bloomberg

did pull it off because they thought it

was just a screen cover not an

especially your part of the display

you're reviewing these things all the

time it starts to become like oh you you

notice something on screen okay well you

remove that that's routine and I've seen

I've seen some criticism particularly

aimed towards Marquez over his

assumption that he should just remove it

but honestly I felt like it was kind of

unfair they were like well if you read

the manual then you would know not to

remove it and to me in read the EULA

yeah exactly to me if something is not

seamless on the front of a display like

if it is not clearly fused to the front

of the glass then I I don't think it's

unreasonable to expect that someone

might remove it in fact in many years of

habit forming - exactly that and there's

many phones that come with screen

protectors even are quite permanently

applied like oneplus ships the screen

protector on their phones but that are

entirely optional so it's the kind of

thing that knowing this and surely

Samsung must know this they would have

thought to put like a gigantic warning

on it yeah like a separate peelable one

I actually I actually damaged a phone

screen once I forget what phone it was

but it had kind of an anti-glare coating

on the front of it like scratch that

went not quite to the edges I picked it

a little bit I went oh crap this isn't

supposed to come on yeah that's quite a

while ago but that definitely used to be

a problem yeah and like most Eve even in

the PC space much more niche and usually

have more enthusiastic us tumors there's

parts that you'll get that will have

covers over things telling you make sure

you do this thing but like like socket

covers usually have information on the

socket covers where you open it certain

power supplies will have like a cover

for the plug to do something for exactly

or like if you buy an all in or excuse

me an all-in-one a prebuilt PC from

someone like an I buy power typically

they'll have a cover over the over the

plug at the back that says yo open up

the case and take out the packing

materials before you plug this thing in

like you can't assume that the user is

going to read the manual unfortunately s

actually for something that we all feel

like we understand pretty well yeah like

a cell phone yeah

now the thing is that even some of the

phones that did not have their

protective covers peeled off have also

died so dieter from the verge got a

bulge under the screen somehow and it

eventually died and then Steve Kovac

from CNBC his died unknown cause of

death now here's the thing that's really

scary about this for me Samsung says

they're still gonna sell the fold but

what's crazy is like yes there's a lot

of review units out there it wouldn't

surprise me if Samsung has shipped

somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 to

a thousand review units but what I also

know based on the fact that I don't have

one is that there's not that many out

there and they also failed really fast

so Samsung showed that they that they

test the Galaxy fold to be folded and

unfolded I forget how many times fifteen

fifteen thousand times or something I

can't remember what the number was it

was more than fifteen hundred I'm sorry

it was it was obscenely high I'm sure a

chat is already very high number that

includes a 15 what there's there's

problems with those tests though that

are fairly well known that it's

extremely uniform how those things

happen and they keep adding the problem

yeah they can try to you can try to add

randomness to it and there's there's

better ones for for different

applications but but like those tests

are definitely not perfect well that's

the problem far from they are perfect

it's a machine

oh yeah no well yeah holding it evenly

it's too perfect perfectly closing it

and unfolding it and then you've already

got people doing first impressions

videos talking about how satisfying the

snap is I mean think back to flip phones

how did you flip open your phone did you

flip it open like this or did you flip

it open a little more something like

this yeah I wouldn't try to shove my

thumb in there if I could but it was

mostly a fluke I mean it was called a

flip not a prideful e apart as far away

from the hinges

possible applying pressure evenly to

both sides of the screen yeah yeah and

you gotta assume a zero you're holding

it improperly problems in the world real

people are gonna use it like real people

200,000 times apparently 200,000 folds

okay YouTube chat is saying thank you

guys very much appreciate that

but the thing is that two hundred

thousand perfect folds that does test

maybe the resilience of the the

reinforcements they've done to the

crease but that doesn't test the way it

handles if someone like just grabs the

top of it and and it puts uneven

pressure on one side you can get way

more so and it think about it you went

to school right learned about levers

right

how much more force can you apply with a

lever compared to just with your own

bare hands directly on some object X a

lot more and when you twist you are

effectively using the phone as a liver

to break itself whatever what am I even

talking about so uh all right the review

units did not have a warning on the Box

cautioning users leave it on Samsung

does say future customers will be warned

Oh an issue I have is like in some of

the pictures that I've seen yeah

looks I haven't held one because we

don't have one so I don't know but it

looks like it would be very likely

especially with the device that's going

to even partially fold yeah for someone

to have an accident where that thing

gets pushed or peeled or pried off

unintentionally like this if if it's

that flimsy to the point where people

were super easily just able to flip it's

gonna be a huge problem yeah because

there's gonna be people that actually

don't even read a warning that's right

on the thing like you know that oh yeah

that'll happen to so if I had to guess

this is a $2,000 device now we know that

the CPU doesn't cost two thousand

dollars it's the same as you'd get in in

a flagship Galaxy S series phone like

there's there's nothing inherently

special about this thing other than well

the Rd yeah the tooling and the screen

and even the most expensive phone

screens I remember being blown away when

I was like really it's like 23 dollars

to replace an iPhone screen like they're

small they're actually there's materials

to them once you learn how to make them

and once the yields are decent they

aren't actually that expensive now the

yields probably suck on these but that's

a whole other conversation so is their

battery on the other side and stuff like

I'm assuming they filled this yeah

assuming they feel that like there's

probably a little bit more mass but it's

not gonna total you don't quote me on

that the point is yeah there's not it's

not like it has a freaking you know

Geiger counter and like you know

altimeter and like like a bunch of like

stuff crammed into it it's just got a

bigger screen and it folds so if I had

to guess I would say it cost $2000

because a the yields are low on the

screen be the Rd was really high for

something they don't think they're gonna

sell that many of or maybe don't want to

sell that many of so I think the $2,000

price is designed to prevent yeah too

many people from buying it for one thing

and to cover the costs of what they

already know are going to be fairly

frequent RMA's I think we somewhat said

this and we like first heard about this

one win and I think this is more

reassurance of that idea what the prot

this also what the price also does is it

filters out the kinds of customers that

are going to be able to afford it to be

only the ones that could then also

afford if it breaks three months out of

warranty you know how a year and a half

from now to just get a new phone

whatever it's a $2,000 phone this is

this says anyone who is a normal human

being who is it outraged by this phone

breaking I feel like you're sort of

missing the forest for the trees here

because it won't affect you you're not

buying it

I wouldn't buy it yeah would you buy it

no like to me honestly once you get past

the point of like 400 to 600 dollars you

need to have a pretty compelling

argument for why I should why I should

take this thing especially now that

phones are such incremental year by year

upgrades and buying a last gen phone is

like actually such a good value

proposition exactly so yeah it's a

product that's designed for

early adopters who don't care about

money so with that in mind do I think

that them breaking is a problem actually

no do you think that them breaking at

this kind of a rate let's say

hypothetically I think actually five

hundred to a thousand review units was

probably aggressive let's say there's

probably somewhere in the neighborhood

of like two hundred out there right now

do you think four out of two hundred

remembering that that's only a two

percent failure rate do you think this

is a nothing burger what they say in a

week so yeah so I'm gonna I'm gonna

start this with a story I knew a guy at

one point in time that you actually know

but I'm not gonna name o that I went to

school with and he was extraordinarily

wealthy at the time and in the course of

a few months

he broke I think it was like three

iPhones just I am a little tipsy coming

back to dorms drop iPhone hahaha get new

one okay didn't really bother him so

maybe not that big of an issue cuz they

could just swap them out I don't know at

a certain level I don't know how much it

actually matters if we ignore that whole

concept I think it's a problem that

they're going to wantedly fail within a

week but like I don't think this is a

game breaker for the people making that

type of a decision for the reasons that

I just stated right if you're spending

two grand on a phone that you know has a

high probability of breaking and that

you know doesn't really have probably a

super major value proposition for you

I'm super experimental it's probably not

the biggest deal I do think it's a

problem but I don't think it's a I think

they'll still sell the phones to the

people that they wanted to sell the

phones to if that makes sense

we've got people talking about that they

think Huawei's mate x is going to be a

much better implementation and I'm gonna

kind of jump in and say you know what I

doubt it

I suspect that like so many things this

is just the race to be the first one and

it's it's got it's got that smell of you

know first gen

experiments you know should have been a

death kit you know like the first

generation Apple watch where the battery

life was terrible it had all kinds of

other issues Apple so quickly deprecated

that thing they didn't even cook they

don't even acknowledge it by giving it

like Apple watch gen1 status it's like

gen zero like that that is absolutely

their own way of denoting that product

these things happen and I think that as

consumers if we are if we're paying

attention it should be pretty clear that

they're happening so they shouldn't

really happen to us so yeah I don't I

don't think the made X is gonna be

particularly better so now having

experienced one folding phone at CES

yeah I've noticed for having extreme

issues I don't really know it's

definitely not just fooling oh

interesting it's all platforms for sure

a video output low it's not receiving

enough video to maintain smooth

streaming as such all viewers viewers

will experience buffering what that's an

interestingly it looks like ouputs 7,500

yep

I don't see any dropped frames or

anything all right we're gonna have to

power on here anyway keep cruising on

yeah so yeah having seen that one at CES

having seen at least second hand what's

going on with the galaxy fold it's just

it's just a super super early product I

think folding phones are going to be a

super big deal they're not right now

like you said maybe should have been a

dev kit kind of situation they maybe

should have expressed the situation that

it was in before before pushing it in

the way that they did

I don't think saying dev kit would have

necessarily been the right way of going

about it but but broadcasting that like

you're on the bleeding edge could have

been cool and made up for any shortfalls

that it has oh lordy a cool dude on

YouTube has a suggestion for a video

that sounds like straight out of a mr.

beast title you should buy one and

don't count out loud while folding it as

many times as you can before it oh my

god

okay one that does 100% sound like a mr.

B's video - I'd probably click on that

video skip to the end and then leave

yeah he's probably working on it but

every time he folds it he like gives

some $100 or something all right let's

move on to our next topic cuz honestly I

don't think I have a what a lot else to

say a jump to this one I think this

one's more interesting yeah I think the

Sony sexy content regulation is honestly

kind of boring yeah um so this was

originally posted on the forum by

nevermind no one no one ever gional

articles from tech spot.com and

basically what's going on yeah I think

we need sexy content from social media

sites so it seems to have to do with so

I don't know in favor of this why don't

you go ahead and defend yourself so to

be clear I was joking you're a joke what

I mean I was joking

but I'm down to try it's gonna be

difficult I don't necessarily think oh

man so I have to try to fight for the

other side echo echo echo kill this

you're broadcasting your audio oops

sorry

oh I guess you stopped sharing salewa

parently did a thousand folds Oh

lightweight and it didn't break I think

when we did our mini fools when we did

our USB type-c I think we did five

thousand insertions didn't something

break by at that point - uh yes our

micro B did yeah yeah yeah so you win

until you had to stop and I actually

didn't do all of them I only did about

300 to 500 yeah that was back during

like his first couple weeks he gets this

assignment that's like unplug and replug

and actually it was five was it I think

it was five thousand yeah you can have

it Dennis I think it was five thousand

each on type-c and micro be Dallas

Dallas brutal poor James anyways so the

the UK's will

whoever's trying to push this in the UK

their stance seems to be that it there's

the psychological effect of wanting to

get more likes on social media or

something that I've never heard of

because I don't use snapchat but streak

streak points honestly I have a snapchat

I feel so bad because we actually

approach snapchat like worked with them

to take our handle back from someone who

already had it and then proceeded to

literally not post once ever well you

should have taken the handle though so

that makes sense but like yeah I felt a

little bad if you would yeah I don't

remember what the snapchat thing is

called but some thing on snapchat that

makes people want to use it more and

likes because of the influence that it

can have over so the idea is that in the

same way that achievements in video

games are designed to to like do you ban

those to like where does this stop okay

I mean when a Windows Windows Europe

stop trying to police the whole internet

okay he's getting really enough for one

thing brexit the UK is not Europe

they're not done yet well you know what

right now I let my sort of are sorry

anyway so I think I don't know in a

nutshell the argument is that much in

the same way that an achievement in a

game hits the same centers of your brain

that a drug hit will from an addiction

v8 like gambling gambling or drugs in

the same way that that those same

centers of your brain are activated by

achievements in games or or getting

positive feedback from from from likes

and there's definitely think oh yeah

they're saying that because of that it

should be regulated and restricted from

minors in the same way that other

addictive substances and activities are

the problem is I'm not usually one to

make the slippery slope argument yeah I

think over the years that we've hosted

this show together you've probably heard

me make that argument very few

I can't even think of I don't know if

ever I just don't want to necessarily

say never like because that's a hard

yeah I don't not often because really

not often IIF at all

I usually understand I usually can at

least understand why we are you know

taking this certain action as an

exception even if I don't agree

fundamentally with I think sometimes

it's the direction argument is valid can

be but I think most of the time by the

time we're reaching the slippery slope

argument we've actually gone too far

like you can't say okay the the the

Chinese social social social merit

whatever it's good yeah that that

Chinese social citizenship score thing

you can't be like oh well if they start

monitoring if you jaywalk then it's a

slippery slope before they're monitoring

you chewing gum then you're in Singapore

that's not a slippery slope like 24/7

surveillance of your of your citizens

it's just you're you're rolling off the

so the so it's shaped like this okay you

guys you got your ground rolling you got

your slope and then you got your kind of

jump there's a cliff okay we're here

you're like in midair

we're in FIFA like we haven't actually

no no we're like we're going off the

jump like we haven't descended yet it

feels like it feels like we're still

going up but there's nothing but open

air below the slope is in the rear feet

here like that so I'm I'm usually loathe

to make that argument but in this case

as a parent I do agree that there are

activities that do need to be regulated

when it comes to children they cannot

control themselves when it comes to

things like microtransactions for

example I think there should be

regulation there but like that

microtransaction feels like something

where there should be parental controls

or some type of thing to stop that from

happening whatever something built-in

like button feels like something where I

I need your input on this one yeah but

that feels like a parenting thing that

feels like partially a parenting thing

and also partially just I'm sorry that's

the way the world works now thing

because social media all it is is

amplifying the tendencies and the

behaviors that we already have in that

we already exhibit so if I were to do a

cool kickflip on my skateboard at the

skate park right if I were to do that

and you know the three guys that are

sitting on the bench over there like

that's alike that's cool that's good

it's exactly the same thing yeah so when

I post a video online of doing a cool

kickflip and 30 or 300 or 3,000 or

30,000 or 300,000 people click that like

button that's just like and there's

there's good influence there because if

you if you get 300,000 people liking

your video of a kickflip maybe you have

a career in skateboarding that have you

or that's that's how the modern internet

works like a so I guess what I'm just

kind of trying to figure out is at what

point do you cross the line from banning

addictive behaviors to banning basic

human interaction but just it happens to

be online and like this this is being

proposed and like what defines alike is

it literally only thumbs up and things

that say like or is it up votes

does that count that's sort of the same

thing do you Ben all of Reddit like like

that that's that would we be better off

without reddit baby but okay this this

I'm wondering with with the continuation

of like oh you can't share that

different type of content I know I

realize that's the mostly a money-making

type of thing and now the banning of the

like button and etc etc and with the

increased not necessarily tech literacy

but ability to use browsers and things

getting much more simple it over all

even the complicated stuff yep I

wonder ten 15 years from now yeah

dark web stuff being more mainstream

there's a lot of mainstream websites

that are making dark web mirrors of

their websites so it's kind of weird but

it's going on tell me more about this

trend I confess I have not heard let me

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one nice thing about it is I know not

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I like the wide mouth because you can

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if you're not drinking just water it

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makes it easy to do stuff like T's or

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so it's not the kind of thing I would

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back to the topic I was talking about

previously yeah apparently Facebook has

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Hertz security reasons for their users

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it's pretty weird for someone to like

onion Network into their own Facebook

account but with stuff like that

happening and I believe there was other

ones but I couldn't find them all right

now it doesn't matter but like I have at

least one mainstreaming example of a

very large big website that tons of

people use that has made a

effectively mirror on a dark web service

I think it's gonna happen more I think

is gonna happen a lot more actually I

think it's gonna take quite a while like

a really long time but I think it's

gonna happen more because the main

Internet as we know it is gonna become

like the amount of bills that have been

coming out restricting what people can

do changing different access to things

doing all this kind of stuff

governments from all over the freaking

planet it's if it seems like trendy at

this point in time to try to control how

the internet works and that's just gonna

get even worse over time and I think

people are gonna try to run away from

that because the Internet is we know it

is it's constantly changing and in not

good ways like I don't know if you've

heard what's going on with man what is

their actual name I know the dude's name

South African tech YouTube channel did

Bitcoin stuff for a long time now

they're a little bit not doing as much

Bitcoin stuff I would hope not

why can't I remember their name that's

knowing anyway cell phones that detail

yes you have detect I a teal D Tech in

my mind I was like I know that's not

obviously yeah

but anyways South African yeah South

Africa's killing our YouTube channel

apparently they pass something or

they're trying to pass something I don't

know I don't know all the details I'm

sorry but where you have to like pass

all images or series of images also in

his videos through the government before

you post them online okay so like

because some dude didn't like memes

being made about him or something I

don't know but like if they're basically

shutting down all South African content

creators that sucks Wow I don't know if

this bill went through or not again I

don't know any of the details South

African law is not a strong suit of mine

but like government's getting their

hands in on Internet is a major thing

right now definitely a trend so I think

I think people are gonna try to scatter

and get away from it oh crap people are

asking how many fluid ounces it is I

believe it's 12

I don't quote me on that though I don't

remember wouldn't be surprised it's not

on dang it yeah it's not on here is it

on the website that's 12 fluid ounces in

cups

our Mills is fine one and a half cups no

I think it's more than that maybe it's

16 then yeah that's way more than one

and a half cups it's probably 16 no it

doesn't I think that's why people are

mad oh no no no no yeah okay sorry we'll

get back to you on that I don't think

it's 20 definitely seems more than 12

yeah I don't think it's 20 because you

guys got to remember this is a vacuum

water bottle so the walls are quite

thick yeah 16 I think would make sense

you know really don't know them all

right what else do we have do we have to

do news anymore or can we just like

shoot the breeze I think we could shoot

the breeze we did the odd spots

we're like the majority of vast majority

of the way through the show

facial-recognition to become standard

and US airports though that kind of

sucks we could talk about that yeah okay

Department of Homeland Security plans to

use facial recognition technology on 97%

of departing passengers within the next

four years it was first started rolling

out in 2017 was operational in 15

airports as at the end of 2018 and it

works by photographing passengers at

their departure gate then Crawford it

then cross-references this photograph

against a library populated with images

from visa and passport applications as

well as those taken by border agents

when foreigners enter the country it

will allow us Sephora teas to identify

people who have overstayed their visas

they've traditionally relied on airline

flight manifests to track who's leaving

the country but apparently since the

introduction of the system facial

recognition identified seven thousand

passengers who overstayed their visas on

the fifteen thousand flights tracked so

they estimate that over 600,000 people

overstay their visas every year an

offense that carries a maximum penalty

of a 10-year ban from entering the u.s.

alrighty then

okay so roast yeah

people thought we were mad at each other

you me mm-hmm

you didn't see those comments no on

floatplane I saw a significant number of

people so there there were discussion

see the discussion threads on Reddit

they're not not mostly about you and me

mostly thought that there was going to

be strain on my marriage because of some

of some of the the roast material

between me and Yvonne I knew there

wouldn't be beforehand but evidence that

wasn't on camera you guys were happy

laughing joking being very friendly

couple people at the dinner afterwards

they were more than fine honestly

that is no worse than stuff that we say

to each other on a regular basis and

always in like not not in anger or

anything like yeah like we just we mess

with each other a lot and we consider it

something honestly I will say that it

kind of blows my mind when people think

that the interaction my wife and I are

having could somehow be negative yeah

because I I'm glad that I can I can say

things in jest that are taken as a joke

I mean I've said a lot of times I think

that the world would be a better place

if people took the words for what they

meant as opposed to what they said

obviously when I make a joke about my

wife's flat chest I don't mean that I

don't like her and I don't mean that I

care and that it's a problem yeah I mean

that those last two are pretty important

objectively that's a thing that's true

lol and ignoring that isn't like yeah

it's like what should I say should I say

I've never seen such a busty woman in

all my years then you're kind of an

idiot or blind or a liar or a liar right

I don't want to be any of those things

it's it's gotta be one of them I can't

we just be honest with each other so

you're blind you would have probably you

know that's a policy that's worked

pretty well for me

no honesty in relationships is really

important and people who can't handle

honesty quite frankly my life is better

without them so yeah no no no what no

one's mad it's all good I thought it was

hilarious I had a blast I thought it was

so it was like all of my favorite part

about all of your jokes was that I

laughed before anyone else because I

knew where you were going

I found that so hilarious I watched that

whole part over again cliff I was so

funny the second you go you look at me

you're like he's a liar you know I just

probably flinch I got the wording

correct yeah yeah yeah man it was really

funny though

I enjoyed the whole thing I didn't know

there was any comments about that to be

honest oh yeah no there were a ton of

comments like honestly it was a ton of

fun we've been working on the red carpet

interviews this week yeah so did you do

you did an interview write a little one

yeah yeah so they've been so the youtube

version is actually gonna have quite a

few things different from the floatplane

version a couple of the jokes are gonna

get cut not actually because they were

too offensive that's not the reasoning

it was more to do with flow okay so I

think there's two or three that I'm

gonna be fighting it out with James I

think he wants to leave all the jokes

intact I disagree I think some of the

the off-camera banter was b-minus

material at best and just disrupted the

flow and should just be cut so so well

he and I will fight it out yeah so a

couple of the jokes will be cut the

swearing will be censored yeah and then

one of the biggest changes you know

what's lucky you know how we didn't have

microphones pointed at the audience yeah

so the the feed that Dennis has in in

his edit is way better in terms of

audience reaction noise because it

didn't have the guy at the live mixing

board everyone who wasn't talking so

we've got nine mics open at the front of

the room okay and they actually pick up

quite a bit more of it so I was worried

we were gonna have to

laugh track it just to get back to where

we are yeah so I don't know if I think

we've mentioned it a few times but

people watching now if you watch the

roast they we didn't have mics dedicated

in the audience that's why like one of

the people doing a roast might pause for

a little while and like chuckle to

themselves slightly it's not necessarily

an awkward pause most likely the

audience was laughing yeah so so the

good news is we don't have to alter that

but what we're also going to change is

we're going to structure the whole thing

more like a TV broadcast so at the start

there's going to be like the red carpet

interviews there's these amazing title

cards well I saw mine did you see your

really cool should we try to get one

probably find mine yeah can you can you

get one and then we'll show it on stream

so there's these amazing title cards for

all the Roasters little snippets of

interviews and then what we're actually

going to do is we're gonna experiment

with something that we've I think only

once tried before it's really funny we

get comments on our videos every once in

a while like a way to squeak over the 10

minute mark by bloating the video no no

no that only matters if you run an extra

mid role on the video that's the only

reason you get paid more for it now I

can just switch to your screen yeah give

me a sec though I I will in a sec so so

there's no there's no benefit to being

over 10 minutes unless you actually run

more ads which we don't do because we

have our own sponsor stuffed baked in

hey where would I find the the cards for

the Roasters the title cards yeah yeah

is it in the folder somewhere like L

roller

nice graphics

I need Photoshop yeah oh really cuz

they're PS DS probably yeah oh you don't

have no all those are the original

pictures oh that's too bad

oh my god Oh excited for Kyle I think oh

yeah there's one okay good good good

okay so we've got at least a couple to

show you guys at least cool and we can

show you Kyle's picture for his it's

amazing yeah um so so we've got that so

then anyway what we're gonna do is write

really you guys Wow all right so we're

actually gonna split the video up into

like commercial breaks okay so we're

gonna like go to commercial actual spot

and then we're gonna have probably like

our own message like we'll have like a

spot for the madrenas coffee roast Bob

LA or like get the commemorative

LTTE roast shirt at LTT store calm and

then we're gonna run a YouTube mid-roll

so it's an hour and a half long so we'll

probably run like three or four of these

spots but yeah the whole thing is going

to be actually structured like a

broadcast cool I would just I don't know

it's like kind of a it's kind of a neat

idea yeah um so anyway here's here's

Luke's I love that's super cool I don't

remember

I don't remember what I was just

standing there the glass it must have

been grabbed

while we were like like waiting around

before the show I loved it and then I've

got a couple more over on my system here

so this is mine that's actually pretty

legit oh man this is Kyle's I'm just

excited it looks so legit oh I'm so

excited so yeah we have people started

spamming the floatplane logo in for a

chat okay so for those mongering

yes but like Director's Cut version is

gonna hit flow plane yeah the only

difference then will just be that it's

uncensored so it'll still have the

couple of awkward jokes or pauses cut

like it'll be the exact same cut as

YouTube except it's just going to not be

censored so are you guys doing the add

spots which ones in the oh in the flow

plane one you know what probably not I

would think maybe the madrenas I would

think we might leave the madrenas ones

because they did sponsor the show and

we'll probably leave the shirt yeah

those are so topical and they'll

probably I don't know so that's the

purpose of the ones that we're baking in

is that they are directly tied to the

roast yeah actually you know what

that makes sense can I show them the the

mock-up of the roast shirt graphic okay

cool yeah yes it's pretty great that's

what I'd really like that

um where is my chat with him though I

don't talk to no no I've got it I've got

it I've got it it's just a matter of

scrolling up through it here we go I'm

so excited for the shirt design are we

still doing the wondering color yes okay

so here it is whoa that's pretty cool oh

is this completely something else have

you seen the pin oh the pins really cool

I love that I am so I just wanted one

with like an ltte logo here and then a

huge image of that pin on the back yeah

I love that pin it's super cool yeah

that makes sense that makes sense yeah

but yeah so this is like the that's

super cool I know absolute yeah that's

like that works for a whole bunch of

reasons

that's a meme in itself that's pretty

but one change we ended up making is

this bag of the ltte roast is also going

to be the lighter color okay so that it

stands out from the table and everything

yeah but yeah this is fine everything is

fine

that's pretty awesome apparently I have

tinder open yeah super tinder I think

you're thinking of Google Docs kit guru

Twitter float

plain Gmail Google photos YouTube and

the line is tech tips store nothing I'm

gonna get in trouble for for sure

wow what can I help you with by the way

twin derp water bottle questions yeah

Nick's here oh yeah

sup we have quantities oh no it seems

like it's 20 ounces 20 ounces but we're

gonna confirm that marina at it we will

confirm that and add it also if you want

one you can just stand closer so I don't

have to repeat also if you want one over

20 percent of the stock is gone already

look for like what's currently in our

warehouse oh really

yeah oh so if you want one you should

order one and then we're probably gonna

set up a backorder for the remaining

ones that we have on order and then we

have to order more so I told you we were

gonna have to order more I know I told

them I was like these are gonna be fire

I love this thing so much we have gotten

burned on some stuff I've already seen

people complaining like it's 30 dollars

that's a lot yes these types of water

boils are pretty spins we know these

types of water bottles also are not that

cheap my glue dude and the thing is legs

we want one that is a trash the merch

business overall has to at some point

stop losing money for us just laughs we

do have to make some margin on it that's

that's all I can really say like that's

the thing is in any business the the

successful products pay for the ones

that weren't as successful and so that's

what this has to do with that set I

don't think I don't think $29.99 us is

entirely unreasonable it's also fully

custom and really nice yeah so that's

the other thing too guys is we're not

just putting our label on like a water

bottle that we found on Aliexpress or

whatever like this everything about this

was designed for us it's full custom so

if you just go to like the local print

shop or like CafePress or whatever and

just you know customize print your logo

on it it's not gonna be the same quality

like the thing on here is really durable

like it's actually really nice so I

don't know I don't think it's

unreasonable we do have to make some

margin and we are doing the five dollar

coupon code as a launch promos that's

already someone in Phillip Lane chat

he's like I got a t-shirt in the water

bone he's the code Ray and just to be

clear when you say we're not just like

yes we are working with people overseas

so like but we're creating a custom

product here anything like that but

we're doing a lot of work on the front

end to make it fully custom to us and

the thing is that there's a lot of

overhead involved in that we've

literally been working on this water

bottle for like three months now someone

someone in chat brought up shipping to

Australia I can add in that I know

shipping has been a something they've

been working on for a long time and I

know shipping scam Europe got a lot

better very recently yes Australia

should be less than $20 to get there it

just might take like up to three weeks

to get to you well that's kind of a

bummer but yeah working on it

also if right now Canada Post has an

issue where they're printing up tracking

numbers which are really reference

numbers so if you get a tracking number

that doesn't work don't worry your order

is still fine just Canada posted so

there's been there's been a lot of work

that's gone into like setting this up

and making it better but I've said this

before I'll say it again the the

commitment though is that our merch it

might not be cheap it might not be fast

it might not be easy but it'll be good

so that's the commitment and if it takes

us months to bring a water bottle to

market and we have to take on an

enormous order minimum order quantity in

order to get like the quality and the

customization that we want then we're

just gonna do it and hopefully it goes

well I mean already this one's a smash

hit somebody in chat said to be fair I

just shipped an eBay sale to Australia

and it was sixty three Canadian dollars

for less than two kilograms Canada Post

sucks so

they're dealing with really difficult

shipping problems when you go over

massive oceans it's a little expensive

but they're working on it just Canada

Pro post like wrecking you if you're not

doing enormous volumes with them yeah

but they're working on it it's so

frustrating because like right Royal

Mail in the UK like you can send a

letter overseas for like next to nothing

and so I think a lot of the time people

from places where shipping is heavily

subsidised like Hong Kong or the UK or

just like no it should be like sheep

cheap to ship packages like I I've

bought used books on eBay for like 350

that ship from the UK and I'm sitting

here going like what the Berenstain

Bears crossed an ocean to get here I

can't do that no amount of volume that I

could ship via Canada Post would get me

any way to get something to you for

three dollars and fifty cents re I do my

best

yeah we're excited I'm actually super

stoked on this to actually this is

finally the finished design for reserve

ETA for this no okay sorry actually it's

not quite finished I think we are gonna

make these ribbons more like this

thickness okay yes orange accents up

here are gonna be a little bit thinner

this is a really really cool hoodie

though so these are reflective so if

you're that's pretty good jarred their

high vis so there's one on the back as

well they don't look there's some stuff

that's reflective that looks annoying in

the daytime no this doesn't look

annoying I didn't even know it was no

it's like pretty stealthy that's wrong

it has the foam pocket that I actually

demoed on like social media before

that's big enough to fit even a note I'm

not trying to I'm not trying to like

oversell this stuff I just don't know

cuz I'm not a party team so I'm learning

this stuff live and it's cool so I can't

come out because of the way the pockets

are designed does it have like an over

lip or something it's just that the

pocket oh yeah so you have to like

really pull it out which okay yeah maybe

that's knowing but all

so just don't put it in there unless you

really don't want it to fall out like

it's either you can fall out or you can

put it in the bigger mode or you can put

it over here yeah so no I really like

this one of the latest problem we had

with it so the reason this one's delayed

this one we've been working on for like

four or five months was the supplier

that we were gonna go with for whatever

reason couldn't do a YKK zipper we're

like well that's stupid we're not gonna

ship like this is not going to be that

cheap we're not gonna ship a hoodie at

this price point that doesn't have

something that people recognize to be a

high-quality zipper yeah like well this

one's fine no it's not fine

so we have solved that problem okay

there you go anyway yeah I think that's

it for the show though yeah I think

that's I think that's pretty much when

can we get the jacket I'm sorry I don't

know I really don't know we're the hats

and the other jacket you know the really

cool on the stuffing right yes I love

that one and that one's gonna be really

affordable too I don't think that one

has a YKK zipper but it's gonna be at a

lower price point it looks really cool

I don't know when any of its coming and

I wish all this stuff was faster

underwear yeah where's my boxers aren't

the boxers aren't here but I actually

finally have you know what I'm just

gonna go get my backpack stall them okay

there aren't any news topics yet so what

I will talk about is there's been yeah

the kind of yeah so there's been a lot

of stuttering as people have noticed on

flow plane but if you watch on twitch

and YouTube there's been a lot of

stuttering there as well and throughout

the entire show I'm just gonna address

this because a lot of people in the live

chat have been commenting on it and I

believe some of its gonna go into the

vaad so I think I'm talking about people

to here I've been looking over and I've

seen a lot of stuttering in OBS right

there I don't think that's the only

problem necessarily but there's

something wrong with this computer we've

been saying that for freaking months I

think I have finally convinced Jake that

it's Windows so he's gonna finally

actually reformat the damn thing I don't

work for him anymore so it's not really

my deal but yeah I think they're

actually going to do it

looking at OBS there are zero dropped

frames and the CPU doesn't seem to be

over overly utilized an old Linus has

been saying he thinks the CPU thing but

it's it's very low utilization the whole

time so I believe it's a windows problem

so we're gonna do a reformat hopefully

before next week I'll try to get on

Jake's but about doing that and

hopefully that will resolve a problem

yeah Jake thrown under the bus it yeah

yeah I told you like a long time ago

you should reform out of windows in Jake

and Jake's defense though he also had

like videos to make that I needed him to

do okay um sort of throwing him under

the bus though it's not like he got them

done so who also reporting Windows is of

mostly like actually he got tied up

mostly by side projects this makes like

next progress this so this I'm probably

not supposed to show this to and Nick's

gonna freak out because he hates it when

I like tease stuff that's just never

gonna be available but will it will it's

just going to take a while this looks

super legit is the finished not the

print see how there's like this weird

black like gap key on the back and stuff

yeah and also the I think the angle of

the printing is not quite right the the

pouch at the front is going to also be

printed there's like a weird kind of

like misalignment sort of or like the

angle changes see how it's like kind of

flat on this side and it's angled on

this side so we could have fixed that

but we wouldn't have been able to do the

single piece seamless back so that was

like what matters more yeah

and we decided comfort comfort comfort

first but we have gone back and forth

with I think at this point over half a

dozen suppliers multiple times in order

to finally settle on the material so

there's different not you don't get to

touch it yet but I haven't worn these so

they're clean they're right so just wear

them to work and then taking them off

midday so they're at work yeah assumed

very clean so there's there's different

they're like there's different materials

that could be considered premium so one

of them is in the dow and lloyd I was

pushing really hard for Maddow he wanted

Maddow and we're and I was like look I

don't like it so I've never it's a super

sight it feels like high thread-count

sort of beddings like it's really soft

like kind of silky but probably too

slick but it's not that supportive like

it doesn't have a lot of like hold yeah

yeah I was gonna say that sounds not

like sporty enough so what we settled on

was I'm at Alcott and blend that we

actually had to have the factory custom

produce an entire like not a bolt of

cloth like like a like an industrial

yeah like I don't know what the unit is

it's not a ream it's not a bolt it's

like we actually had to have them custom

make this material for us and then

they'd sent us the sample one of these

sample garments so they're just like

storing this gigantic roll of material

and then we're gonna do the production

run hopefully pretty soon but I'd feel

it wow that's actually really nice so

it's a cotton module blend that we had

to have them custom do for us so it's

still really soft yeah like really soft

on your hands but nice and stretchy and

springy and stuff yeah so I'm like super

stoked on these that's what so excited

so there's gonna be three different

colors there's this one I don't actually

know it's hard to give it to get across

like yeah this feels good ah here's one

of the other colors I like that one so

they'll come in a 3-pack okay so you'll

get this one then there's like this one

and then there's a blue background I

think you don't have an orange one no

interesting so we are kind of it's not

that we're moving away from orange it's

that we are broadening our palette a

little bit we don't want to be locked

into orange forever because what we've

discovered is that especially when it

comes to our demands

apparel yeah it's hard to make it look

like when you're doing um when

doing a piece like this would be bold

people constantly used to ask me what

orange is Ltd orange the forum uses

multiple different oranges because it

will look drastically different

depending on what colors are around it

so at some point in time we just decided

we'll just change it so that it sort of

looks the same all the time even though

it's not because if we actually make it

technically the same orange it looks

wildly different across the whole site

so it's it's kind of a frustrating color

to work with and I'm not even a designer

so we have sold 30% of the water-bottle

inventory that's in the warehouse so 10%

more since yeah people are like how much

are the Box stars gonna cost

I don't know the reason that we're doing

bundles of 3 though is because I don't

think these are gonna be as high margin

of an item they were really expensive

for us anyway yeah that's pretty

standard but the the reason was that we

needed to make sure that we weren't just

shipping out one unit at a time because

our handling costs which are actually

you know you know who does our handling

for us do you remember Patrick yeah yeah

so it's actually one of the old

warehouse managers at NCIX who's like

super good guy he's fantastic so he

started his own business but they're

really small so I mean part of it is

like we really want to work with Patrick

because he knows his shiz and he's

honest he's reliable like we can count

on him we trust him but like he's a

super he's a startup he's a start-up so

like he's doing his best but what it

means is that our handling costs are a

little bit on the higher side not

because he's gouging us or anything but

because he's he's starting up he's

building his momentum right now so our

handling cost per item are pretty high

so if we bundle them together yes you

pay more but you get three of them and

then we can amortize that overhead over

three units of it and we can still make

decent margin that's all you're

certainly gonna it's almost like I'm

doing my old job again

mmm it's great you're probably gonna end

up paying less per unit like per per

boxer absolutely yeah absolutely so

palatable whenever you go to the store

buying a single pair of socks or buying

a single unit of underwear is almost

never worth it compared to buying a

multipack people are like we need LTT

thongs says the grassy bush LTX LTX

stuff is there an update lame' family

plain merch

hey there's actually a shirt yeah there

is a shirt come it'll be available

exclusively at LTX very limited

quantities yeah so you better be there

and I'm I'm like I don't even know we're

not even a hundred percent certain at

this time if we're gonna be selling them

oh really

okay the amount of creators are gonna be

at LTX are gonna be on the platform that

are probably gonna want to have some

shirts got it and are probably gonna

want to give some shirts away oh we

actually have a really important LTX

update BYOC update and last call for

early bird pricing so if you haven't

bought your LTX Dreamhack ticket yet do

it now early bird pricing ends tomorrow

and tier two prices which are higher

will take effect at noon tomorrow a

limited number of Saturday passes remain

they're selling fast but don't worry

there are still two day passes and

Sunday passes available both event days

run from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. with the BYOC

going thru Saturday night into Sunday

you don't have to leave that the main

stage it'll be different events and

panels each day and a number of the

booths throughout the expo area will

also have daily pricing for assorted

mini games and activities so tier 2

prices one day past 35 us - day past 60

us BYOC plus 2 day past 90 dollars yes

more BYO seats will be available noon

April 20th it took some Tetris like

rearranging the floor plan a couple

times but we made room for 90 more seats

ish yes so guys noon tomorrow

BYOC

that's the only we are not going to be

able to create more boa FC tickets this

is not like a concert where they're like

sold out performance that's like well

why do you have a radio ad running for

it because we're gonna open up mercy

yeah this is not that you guys actually

need to get your tickets this time and

we actually were sold out yeah so oh wow

there's a whole bunch more stuff update

from Dreamhack on some of the view

biopsy activities so cool we understand

that some attendees prefer a very

competitive environment while others

enjoy more relaxed atmosphere so we've

decided to provide both they'll be

hosting between three to six competitive

tournaments attendees will need to come

prepared with pre organized teams ready

to compete for trophies and press wow

they're like doing tournaments and stuff

yeah that's super cool they were just

doing I want to cast the rocket League

tournament I've said it before I'm

serious about that though I want to do

that the format rule set and schedule

for each tournament will be posted in

advance you'll have plenty of time to

prepare your team the first two games

were announcing for this format are

Rainbow six siege and rocket League the

other games will be decided by popular

vote via a survey that'll be sent to the

BYOC attendees after the BYOC sells out

again so probably sometime on Sunday for

anyone not interested in competitive

tournaments they'll be hosting plenty of

casual pop-up events throughout the

weekend some previous favorites include

one our build offs in Minecraft and

Terraria private server free-for-alls in

pub G and fortnight and 32 view 32

brawls in quake and UT just to name a

few that's so sick there oh that's

really there under a hundred days left

to the event buy your tickets now at

they put their track link there but it

doesn't really matter the hje /lt x19

we'll see you there so guys it's gonna

be awesome

I'm so stoked I might just get

Backstreet Boys and just say I don't

know I can what I might do and this is

like I realize I'm sounding like kind of

a crazy out-of-touch rich person right

now but what I might do I really want to

see them is I might just grab a plane

ticket so I'll scalp my tickets grab a

plane ticket and fly in soon or else

okay I thought you're gonna like the

side of their house well you can charter

a float plane to the Vancouver

Convention Center oh really

that would be so cool that offers a

floatplane marketing expense I thought

because where is the concert it's

downtown Vancouver actually wouldn't

need a plane oh well no I was thinking

like if it was Zach if it was against

water you could fly from healthy extra

Backstreet Boys I might just do it

though cuz I honestly I think LTX 2019

is gonna be like once-in-a-lifetime III

mean LTX 2020 yeah we're gonna do

everything in our power to to crush 2019

but 29 - it's the first of us doing it

this big yes and like I don't know that

certain things we're doing this year

would be possible it is costing us

almost 50,000 US dollars to fly out the

incredible roster of tech creators that

are going to be recruit to be on full

plane so this is what we have confirmed

so far yes my friends know it's not just

Linus tech Expo it's like I'll be there

sure but I don't know by the time by the

time we're done I may not be the most

famous person there and that would be

great because we're not necessarily done

I think we've spent just over 40 grand

so far on plane tickets accommodations

Plus Ones camera people like making sure

that these guys are comfortable these

are all like very important people very

busy you know we're not paying any of

them to be there but we need to make

sure that we're accommodating them and

making sure that they're comfortable and

yeah it's exciting but it's also so I

don't know I don't know what future LT

X's will look like but this year has

been a breakout year and I'm really

excited so yeah like - stop shaking your

feet is Linus in the closet I mean

Backstreet Boys really you can like

music without having a particular sexual

orientation just saying and that's far

far from the uncoolest music that I

enjoy

there you go oh we should totally just

change it legendary tech Expo how they

deleted their message that's weird

I I liked the idea you should have it be

one of those like cheesy things where

you have like you have tech Expo or what

it's T stand for it it technics - tech

Expo so just force the L to stay there

have tech Expo stay there and then just

swap the word that comes in after the L

old habits die hard

but you could swap in like legendary

leet whatever

hmm that could be like a transition yeah

like a transitionary yeah yeah so you

can make it like the L kind of stands

for what you want yeah just slowly

detach all right yeah I love Nickelback

sorry one step forward and two steps

back I think we're done for the day see

you guys next time

same same bat-time same bat-channel am I

even here next week I think holy crap

you were spamming the hell out of invite

Lewis Rosman um yeah yeah I'd bring this

sure why not he was there last time yeah

yeah bye guys