SIX FIGURE Instagram Expert Shares His Secrets {INTERVIEW}--make money online

haha hey guys I'm here with Anthony

groper he runs and manages a 1.4 million

follower network on Instagram and he

makes well over $10,000 per month

completely from Instagram and in today's

interview he's going to share his own

story and tell you the three biggest

lies people tell you when it comes to

growing and making money from Instagram

and now he started like he he started

gaining 10,000 followers per month when

he stopped listening to these lies that

all these gurus and big people told him

so Anthony it's awesome to have you on

here how's it going my man

yeah thanks Andy thanks for the awesome

introduction hello to everybody watching

this video and your audience super

excited to go ahead and share with you

guys a lot of things that have helped me

and again my biggest goal is always to

expose the lies that you hear about how

instrument pages should be grown and the

actual waste how to do it so yeah super

pumped to be here thanks for having me

yeah it's awesome to have you on here

and like I've been watching so many

Instagram influencers I've been watching

so many YouTube videos about growing

Instagram and growing this and that and

everyone tells you these three big lines

that we're going to go into today and

before I say that there is a link in the

description to his webinar where he goes

more in depth about these strategies

that you really should check out I

watched it yesterday it was insane and

it's gonna help you a lot if you're

interested in Instagram at all but

before that I want you to tell my

audience about why should they listen to

you right now

yeah for sure well you shouldn't listen

to me I actually have no idea what I'm

talking about

I know I'm just kidding so a little bit

about me like India said I run a 1.4

million network on Instagram I've been

on Instagram for a really long time

I always forget the exact number years

were probably like I started four to

five years ago and I've only really had

success with it maybe like two two and a

half years ago I had a super long

learning curve because I was so I guess

you could say

thick-headed and I always wanted to like

do it my way and have like you know the

Anthony strategy of how I did this now I

really find success and so I stopped

being like that and I was like are you

know why I got a

what actually works it's the quickest

way to get there so that's got a little

bit about me now I like I said I run a

1.4 million Network I run Instagram

marketing agency I have some pretty big

travel pages that I use to leverage for

free travel get a free hotel stays free

airfare I've done this in Panama Costa

Rica New York I'm I work with six and

seven-figure entrepreneurs we work with

personal brands viral pages we basically

do everything Instagram and we're trying

to be the top marketers on Instagram so

that's basically a little bit about me

my backstory yeah and it's awesome to

see when I watched your webinar I

actually saw that you have a lot of

different students as well can you tell

us about those students that's gain

results with your program and training

yeah yeah so I have well I was there's a

handful of students I have they've done

really really well so one of them he

actually the one who has gained the most

followers in a one single month is just

last month he did a hundred twenty

thousand followers in a one single month

so that was like that's like the most

we've ever had from a student so that is

freaking awesome one of my other

students going from 0 to 100 K from

scratch so he was already kind of at 100

K and added an extra one hundred twenty

thousand one month this guy taking a

page from scratch 0 to 100 K did in 83

days so that is amazing - I got a few

students who are now making over $10,000

per month with Instagram through

Instagram agencies and the rest are

getting you know viral post six-figure

impressions 1 million impressions you

know going 0 to 100 K going 50 K to 300

K all that type of stuff so yeah that's

basically the type of results that I get

um you know for not going viral at all

for not getting you know a few thousand

followers per month there's definitely

something wrong yeah it's amazing and

you actually have a and Instagram or a

student that's from India right

that was them that was the one that hit

me the most oh yes so actually not India

but he's actually from Nigeria uh I

remember he yeah he took our training

and then after he you quickly emailed me

and he was like hey man like I'm really

lost like like I went through but I

don't understand this and that and he

was like all like overwhelmed like I

don't get this I was like hold on like

stop right and I was like let's go

through this and we kind of went through

everything and I kind of told me no just

just fixing because you know he's you

know someone from

jerry is kind of a little more new to

them and by the time we went done and

got through all that two months later

through applying everything he made

$2,000 this is US dollars in one month

flipping Instagram accounts he's from

Nigeria and at that point like that like

it first it was like kind of like just a

training to me but once that happened I

was like wow like this can really help

people so I started taking it way more

serious and I really started like you

know trying to add to it trying to add

more value that's when I kind of came up

with the three lies that we're gonna

talk about here today that the three

lies and that I kind of I tried to

reverse-engineer like why do people fail

on Instagram and ultimately the reason

why people fail is because of three lies

that they're told and once you stop

doing these lies you basically you can

start growing because these lies are

holding you back and it's basically the

things that you hear every day from the

top influencers that just don't want you

to get ahead of them oh yeah and there's

such big lies that it probably everyone

watching this channel or with this video

right now knows of these slides and

think that this is what I have to do to

grow an Instagram but we're gonna go

into this a little bit later I think

that people from Nigeria if they can

make $2,000 in one month

that's a lot of money for someone or for

anyone anywhere in the world that's a

lot of money and I always get these

questions on my channel does this work

from India does this work and this works

from anywhere in the world it doesn't

matter where you're from but I I want to

ask you the question there's a ton of

ways to make money online Facebook it or

you have Facebook consulting

advertisements you have Amazon FBA you

have Shopify you have YouTube you have

all sorts of different ways to make

money online

why is Instagram so good to get into so

that's actually a really good question

so like before I start having success on

Instagram I was kind of in that same

boat where I was like it's like an open

field and you're trying to figure out

what to do so I was looking at

everything right I was doing Instagram

but I was also doing EECOM and I was

having a drop shipping store and I was

trying to do Amazon and I was I was even

like I was looking at writing up ebooks

to sell on a homicide very good books

myself it was like really just

everything that you could think of I

tried doing I tried doing the low

social media marketing agency I tried I

tried Facebook Ads I tried everything

and one day it hit me right one day him

me when I when I finally hired someone

to come here and like help me it hit me

like I had a little Tiffany like the

reason why I'm failing is because I'm

spreading myself too thin you know if

you try to build seven it's like trying

to build seven houses like if your

contractor you're trying to build up

seven houses you're never gonna finish

the first house it's gonna be year

project whereas too if you just focus on

one house and then build the next then

build the next your action make me study

progress it's the same thing with income

streams so I chose Instagram as like hey

what do I need to build my first income

stream my first business around there's

Facebook ads there's blogs there is all

this econ stuff and I chose Instagram

because I realized that it is completely

unsaturated right econ everybody's

talking about it Facebook Ads

everybody's doing it prices are going up

things are getting expensive but

Instagram nobody really knows how to use

Instagram and the people who are using

it also don't really know like major

brands are just kind of on Instagram

because they know it's kind of hot they

know it's kind of blowing up and they're

just kind of there but they they're not

leveraging it successfully so like hold

on a second I'll step in here I'll learn

the shit out of Instagram inside and out

and then I'll have my pages that are

growing I'll be making money from the

platform that can also offer for this as

a service to other brands so that's why

I picked Instagram and now like ice

cream was hot a year ago it's getting

even hotter now like more high-level

people are talking about it a lot of you

know business channels like huge people

are just talking about Instagram um so

that's why I would dive into it because

it's unsaturated and the people who are

using it there are a lot of people using

it but they don't know how which means

which means that there's money for you

to make by going ahead and stepping in

actually knowing what you're doing and

growing accounts for them consulting

trainings everything like that yeah

absolutely when you when we are going to

go into these three lines you're all

gonna know that this is the way you grow

an Instagram this is the way they

actually grow and get followers and

going to viral posting and all sorts of

different things too and the ways that

and Anthony it's gonna teach you is so

much better than what you think so I

think we're just gonna go into and the

the three strategies

or the three lice right now knit the

first one can you tell us about the

first biggest line that people actually

think so the first biggest lie and I

can't really get mad at people for

thinking this because it's what people

are told it's what I start off as but a

lot of people have this false belief

that follow and follow is the only way

to grow or that it is the best way to

grow all right first off follow and

follow is not the definitely not the

only way to grow and it's actually one

of the worst ways to grow and the thing

is that majority of people are doing

follow and follow so remember when I

said like probably just a minute ago I

was like most people who are on

Instagram or taking advantage of it

don't even know what they're doing these

people are doing things like follow and

follow right these people are doing

basically those types of things so the

reason why I follow and follow is so bad

and why it doesn't work is yes you will

get a quick result from follow unfollow

right if I follow a thousand people

somebody has to follow me back like it's

just gonna happen it's not like you're

gonna do follow and follow and you're

not gonna get anything of course you're

gonna get something but listen there's a

reason why big gurus like if you go to

like you know YouTube you type and you

find the most popular Instagram video

they're probably talking about follow

and follow and following celebrities and

having people come and follow you and

the reason why that is is because then

they turn you on to their affiliate link

or their actual company for Instagram

automation so instead of teaching you

the real ways to grow an Instagram they

tell you to just use follow and follow

they make a software for follow and

follow and they sell you on that and now

you're paying them like 99 200 bucks a

month for life to grow your Instagram

and you're gaining a couple thousand

followers per month they don't even care

about you because when you follow

somebody on the premise of them

following you back it's unsustainable

because once you unfollow them they

unfollow you back you can only follow up

to 7500 people on Instagram so once you

do that maybe you that you got a you

know to 3,000 followers well if you want

to get another to 3,000 followers you're

gonna have to unfollow all those people

Andry follow all new people now the

thing is is that people get really

pissed when you wouldn't follow them

right like if you ever been to someone's

page they're like don't follow it

unfollow I got the app you know I mean

it's like it's like people like they get

it you're so emotionally attached to it

like people don't understand making

money online in in growing on Instagram

so when you have just your average

humor going ahead and seeing one follow

them they don't really view you as oh

it's just you know another guy trying to

build is following the view you as an

asshole ready to view you as the guy who

just unfollowed them because you

probably don't like them

that's the consumer mindset so that's

why it's so unsustainable because even

if you follow somebody and they don't

realize it if you ever sell something to

them and they come back to your profile

to maybe even buy that product and they

see that you're not following them

anymore they might take that as a

personal offense right that's the thing

so it's completely on its cup it's

completely unethical

it's unmoral and it just doesn't work

because the premise of which it's built

on just doesn't work right so and on top

of that you're only getting like a few

thousand followers per month if you're

lucky that's really it so it's slow

growth and you're getting followers that

don't care about you most people that

follow you back are just following you

back because they feel bad or they're

just like who's this guy and they just

follow they really have no clue yeah and

and when you think about the marketing

perspective of this it's it's basically

a reciprocity so basically if you do

something for them they pay you back by

following you back right but that is

never going to help you when it comes to

actually monetizing your audience and

actually getting money from that

audience because that's what we want

right we want people to pay us and to

have a consistent income so we can do

whatever we want whenever we want

traveled the world stay at home whatever

you want to do and when it comes to

following someone to follow you back

that just doesn't make sense when it

comes to him actually taking out so it

basically like you pay him money um are

you gonna pay me back

it's it doesn't work at all and I like

this line so much because this is how I

started with Instagram I a travel

Instagram channel called bucket list

free guy had a big website a blog and

also a YouTube channel around that and I

started following and following people

so much but after like six months I gave

I didn't gain any followers I gained

like 2,000 3,000 followers in six months

time and I like this is what everyone is

telling me to do this is what I should

do to get values and it didn't happen at

all it didn't happen

right and that's the thing is that when

they when they someone preaches follow

and follow you when people do that and

they and they follow a thousand people

and they get some followers back to like

wow this guy stuff works right so no go

back to that guy I'm gonna take more

Instagram advice from him then they'll

probably start buying his products but

what he's teaching you is how to be as a

result because if you start looking at

what they're doing instead of what

they're saying you'll see that big

influencers aren't doing follow unfollow

right if you only look up the actual

statistics of their account they're

following never moves they're not in

doing it they're just trying to sell you

on the software and on top of that they

know that with you doing follow and

follow you don't know what they are

actually doing not saying and you can

never surpass them you will never be

competition to them you will just pay

them and pay them and pay them until

you're no longer interested in Instagram

because you're getting no results and

then they're just they just keep

building up the customer base no it's

all that's really about it's a way for

you to go ahead and pay for a service

that you think works well when it

doesn't and they convinced you that

growth is supposed to take a long time

right they're like oh you know it takes

years to get to 100k takes years to get

to you know 200k and really it doesn't

like they they brainwash people into

thinking that like oh yeah it's gonna

take it five years to get to a hundred

thousand followers and then maybe once

you get there maybe you'll make money

maybe yeah yeah and I absolutely hate

that thing where they sell you on

something that doesn't work because they

will make so much more money off of you

not knowing what actually works because

you buy their monthly reoccurring

software that you have to pay monthly

like $29 or $19 whatever it is to follow

and they're not showing you the real

methods that Anthony's doing that the

real Instagram accounts that grow to

like millions of millions of followers

actually you themself they sell

something that gets you resource fast

but very very small results that will

not sustain you for the long term right

just enough they're just feeding you

just enough but you're still starving

that's what that's what it is

yeah and that's that's like in the in

the human psychology people love that oh

I get I get a little bit of results and

then it's like oh I need more I need a

more of that hit I need more of a hit

and then they never get you

grow out of that little kiddie pool that

they're playing in right so yeah I

absolutely love that

stop following um follow guys it never

works they will never get you cells it's

just on the basis of reciprocity which

is that a great human psychological

trick you can use in other ways but not

follow and follow and what a ste second

biggest my people should know about

Instagram so the second biggest lie is

that you need to be creating great

content and you need this crazy life to

go ahead and have an Instagram like I

feel like when I first started I was

like oh you know I'd love to do

Instagram but I can't because you know I

don't live in LA I don't live in

California and you know I don't have

this party life and I'm not clubbing

every night and I don't have the

Lamborghini and you know I don't have

the Rolex I'm basically not a

millionaire who's just living the dream

you know so their longtime Muslim yes I

was like okay well I I can't do

Instagram because I don't have that you

know what I mean and then I realized you

know like what is the behind-the-scenes

pages like I'm sure you guys have seen

pages that are reposting I mean I'm sure

everybody seen meme pages but there's

also pages that are reposting travel

content luxury content beauty concept

makeup content soccer concept football

content everything like got sports pages

you got if there's a niche for literally

everything fitness pages um so when I

started looking at these types of pages

I was like huh these guys aren't using

their own content right and it's funny

because when those personal brands those

you know actual people with names who

are out partying stuff every night when

they go to growth right when they want

to grow like where do they go to for

shoutouts and stuff they go to the

reposting pages why because the

reposting pages grow super easy so I was

like hmm well I don't have the party

life I can't really do a personal brand

around me yet so what if I just started

growing these reposting pages where I

can go ahead and I can grow these pages

and then I can monetize through you know

giving shots to these other guys who do

have the cool lifestyle and they want to

get promoted and stuff so that's why I

started doing so I was like okay I'm not

gonna do my own content I'm going to go

ahead I'm gonna make a page for the

first pitch I made was a luxury page so

I was really into cars literally some

gold chains and stacks a huge money and

all that stuff so I was like screw it

I'll do stuff that I already like

looking at so I started just going ahead

and growing you

luxury pages and when they actually

started to grow I realized like hey I

don't need to be a photographer I don't

need this crazy lifestyle I don't need

to know Lightroom and Adobe Premiere Pro

and all these editing software's and and

buy this three thousand dollar camera so

you can actually go ahead and create an

entire Instagram business without using

any of your own content yeah it's it's

amazing like there's no real police when

it comes to copyright when it comes to

Instagram which is a great way to

actually grow your Instagram and you

don't have to have a big life with

traveling across the world doing some

sexy naked butts all across the all the

custard country or the world you can

actually start doing this without having

a camera without doing editing without

doing anything except curating that's

what it's calling curating reposting yup

and the reason why it works a lot of

people are like oh can't you get sued

and the thing is yes you can get sued

you can get sued for stealing someone's

piece of content and then reposting that

but this is a little bit different

because it's not its content that

influencers want to get out right what

influence are pays for shutter or once

promotions are run ads they're running

their own content right they're putting

that content out there so typically if

stuff is already trending and a lot of

people re posting it the content creator

wants it to be reposted right there they

don't mind it because what happens i'm

reposting their pictures i'm crediting

them traffic is flowing back to them

what content creator doesn't want 100

other accounts promoting them for free

right if it's a no-brainer so as long as

your reposting content that content

creators are okay with right then you're

fine as long as you're giving them

credit you're fine and what happens is

you know I've actually had times where

I've reposted content and I've had the

content creator reach out to me and

thanked me personally for reposting it

because it'll get like a million views

and they'd gain like 5,000 followers and

they'd be like do you need any other

content like and let me give it to you

please stick because it's free

advertising for them right and if you're

unsure if you're unsure just ask that's

it obviously never post something that

someone doesn't want to be reposted but

as long as your reposting stuff that

everybody's reposting and it's been it's

been going on for a quite a while then

it's fine and if you're unsure just

permission and you can build an entire

network of accounts or one account just

build it massively with none of your own

content just through growing growth

strategies oh yeah and that's what I

really really liked about that when you

when I talked about that in webinar and

I actually people come to you because

you're reposting other people's content

and you're also reposted one other one

other one image that they had and they

actually reached out to you please or

they got more followers because you

reposted them and they actually reached

out to you to get more posts on your

page because it helped them out so much

you're not doing anything bad you're

actually helping creators by putting the

the the what is it called a URL the the

acts put their handle yeah you just put

their account their handle inda in the

in the description and it's all good

they're getting followers people know

where to click if they want to know more

about the creator of the image it's it's

really nice so for anyone thinking about

it you don't have to be in an expert

photographer you don't have to do crazy

life stuff dan Bilzerian with all his

girls up in this house with all those

guns and tits flying around you don't

have to do that you can just stay at

home

curating and am being a Instagram

curator from your home in your laptop

sitting like this

that's what Anthony is doing every day

you can get to that level after right

leg of course like now I'm at the point

where like hey you know what like I'm

doing some traveling I have a Travel

Network so I can get free Hotel says I

kind of want to start up a personal

brand so now it's like you can always

move into that after it's just that when

you're starting off like a lot of people

just they just need to make someone

right they just need to get pages

growing they need to make some money

online so they can actually go ahead and

live the life they want to live have the

lifestyle they want to have and then

once you get to that point you can start

a personal brand like now for me when I

start my personal brand it's gonna be

easy

why because I've been on Instagram the

past four years I have a network of 1.4

million that I can just blow my account

up with

so all that shit we're influencers are

trying to you know get their accounts

going and they've never done Instagram

before and they're struggling like when

you start learning Instagram you know

when you get to that point you're making

enough money you're making $10,000 per

month from Instagram or more and I was

like hey you know what our sort of my

personal bread is now I'm traveling I'm

doing stuff like it just blows up if you

know what you're doing right if you have

the strategies if you have the network

you blow up for practically free because

you own the traffic right that's one

thing I love about in-service you own

that traffic right if it's on your page

you have you control you don't have to

pay anybody for a shout-out you have

your own free shout-out supply yeah

that's what I really loved about in

scrim like when another thing when I was

picking Instagram I was like you know

Facebook guys or Instagram Facebook or

Instagram I was like you know what I

don't have money to split test like I

was broke I was pissed broke I was

already putting every paycheck into

online ventures I was like I don't have

money to split test ads I don't have

money for this AABB why why split test

like I need something that like ease is

cheap right so I was like all right if I

grow Instagram page my split tests are

free my traffic is free I can control it

so that's another that was like a major

factor of like you know why should I

make Instagram because I'm broke oh yeah

and the way that you'd actually teach is

so fast as well so fast and you can grow

your Instagram accounts really really

fast to get results really fast and when

you see that you kind of get this okay I

can do this one more time or I can do

this one time I can do it two times and

I can write time so now you can grow

this massive million follower Network

like you have to actually send free

traffic whenever you want and everyone

thinking about oh how can I get traffic

how can I get traffic when you I don't

wanna see control but you can send 1.4

million people to somewhere that's power

right there that's power yeah like I

always say like imagine you set up like

an affiliate product that you want to

just like affiliate right simplest thing

to do probably easiest way to make money

online would you say

affiliate marketing take a product and

sell it well okay like I can I have an

advantage over people right like the

person who's just starting off with no

traffic source it's gonna be a little

hard for them to make sales but you know

if I have an account on Instagram with a

hundred thousand followers I have a

hundred thousand potential people to

drive to that affiliate offer like the

second

can offer I can get clicks immediately

to that offer and get conversions

because I have traffic right it's like

it's like having an email list it's like

having a YouTube channel it's like

having anything like that you have

immediate traffic you can send yeah it's

it's such a great great opportunity and

that's what I didn't say minutes in the

beginning but the reason I actually have

Anthony on here is because I think

Instagram is one of the hottest

opportunities right now and I always

said and I've said this in many videos

before that if I weren't doing YouTube I

would go into Instagram so hard and I

would stop listening to all the other

fake shit that's on YouTube like all the

is if you search instant how to grow an

Instagram how to make money from

Instagram you'll see a ton of people and

I've actually watched so many of them so

much shit and that's why I have Anthony

on here because he's one of the guys

that actually teaches the truth that

he's actually teaching the waste that

the biggest account on Instagram are

doing to gain followers to monetize

their audience and and how you can start

from completely

scratch from zero sorry no nothing at

all but let's go to the third biggest

lie that people believe yeah so the

third lie that people believe that

influencers basically brainwash them

right like Infosys always say slow

growth is normal monetize you know a

long time the monetize is normal like

post consistently and be patient like

that's all the bullshit you hear right

so obviously the last one you always

hear is in this is the one again the

third biggest lie is you need a big

account to make money right that's what

they convinced you of so not only did

they convince you that growth is

supposed to be slow and you're supposed

to be patient most consistently right

even though they're blowing up right

even though they took their brand from

zero to a million in a year you know you

just sit there and post patient be

consistent and and you need this huge

accounts to make money right and they

say that you know you need this huge

account to make money because the only

way to make money on in scrims through

shoutouts in reality you can make money

on Instagram and I've done this I don't

just say this with less than a thousand

followers right make hundreds if not

thousands of dollars on your serum with

less than a thousand followers

this is a great cliffhanger right there

although you have to go into the webinar

to see the rest that's funny so you can

actually monetize on screen with less

than a thousand followers so how do you

do this right this is all through going

viral right like I have to say all my

all my success right now from instrum

like when I first are getting success

wasn't from following follow wasn't from

liking pictures wasn't from automation

wasn't leaving comments it was from

going viral being able to have the

skillset to rank content on the explore

page and getting actual people to see

the content and see the reason why going

viral is the best way to grow is because

when someone sees your content and they

follow you they follow you for you they

didn't follow you because you followed

them first

didn't follow you because they like your

picture they don't follow you because

you commented something nice or you know

you comforted emoji they followed you

because they saw your content they liked

it and they said hey you know what

I want to see more of this guy I like

this page let me hit follow and they

want to see more

that is the best follower that you can

have right so now if you're growing with

follow and follow will you be able to

monetize with less than 1,000 followers

no probably not if you're growing the

right way if you're going through viral

methods you can monetize with less than

thousand followers easy I've monetized

on the very first post on a brand new

account and it wasn't through shoutouts

shoutouts is in the reality shoutouts

are one of the most least profitable

ways to grow and influencers love to say

it because you know what to make a lot

of money with shoutouts yes you do need

a big account to make money with shadows

but what I'm about to teach you guys

today is what influencers don't want to

say and how you could make a ton of

money so this is how you can go ahead

and you can easily monetize your

Instagram with less than 1000 followers

right so when I make a post right this

post is going to go ahead and it's going

to get onto the explore page their

strategies their stuff like that if you

guys want to learn that back and stuff

and you leave the webinar links below so

if you want to learn all that stuff go

to the webinar and watch it um but

basically when I make a post I'm doing

certain growth strategies to make that

post hit the explore page right now once

that post is on the explore page the

explore page is basically on you know

everybody on Instagram who is like

similar content can see that right it's

it's the opportunity for you to go ahead

and you know get in front of new people

that

ranking for hashtags when you go viral

on the explore pitch typically your

ranking for hashtags as well so people

are gonna be seeing your content on top

posts for hashtags um I've actually done

this I've ranked for a hashtag called

hashtag marketing they had 10 million

posts in competition and I ranked it

right next to Gary Vaynerchuk and this

was on a brand new account right so off

the birth of a new account I had

somebody with the authority of like Gary

Vaynerchuk competing with me for a spot

in the top post section of a hashtag

that's how powerful going viral is is

what I'm really trying to stress this so

once your content on top hashtags it's

unexplored pages people go ahead and

they click that photo right because it's

gonna be nice it's nice content reposted

content it's easy to grow so people

click that and then people go ahead they

probably like it too probably gage with

it maybe they comment but a lot of

people you know this I you get followers

they start clicking your profile so like

hey this content is really good I'm

gonna go to the profile right they go to

your profile and you know maybe they

follow you maybe no but that's besides

the point this is about making money um

and people will see like hey this guy

only has like you know 20 30 maybe 200

300 followers like the account just got

started and so they look at that let's

say wait that picture had like 15,000

likes right had 5,000 likes whatever um

and then they'll be curious and this

actually happened to me on my very first

post on a brand and it's after me

multiple times which is one scenario my

first post on a brand new account right

it's trending it's shining it's trending

I think it's at like 5,000 likes

somebody goes they they see that content

they go to my profile they see my very

first post with 5,000 likes and I have

like what 50 followers because I just

posted and they're like what the heck

they're looking they're like you know

most people are gonna say ah he's runnin

fake views he's running to take likes

he's running fake comments but then

people are looking you refreshed the

video in every second there's ten more

views every second there's ten more

views there's a new comment every minute

there's new likes every second right so

then they go ahead and they DM you their

daily they realize it's not fake and i

DM you they're like dude you just

started this account and you have 5,000

likes on it and you're gaining a

follower every second I've been on

Instagram for six months and I gained a

follower a day right so they're like

they're they're flipping right and so

you're going head in your messaging back

with them you know you're building up

some value building up some rapport with

them um and eventually they always pop

this question I call these guys curious

leads because they dmu because they're

curious right so

pop this question of after you've a

little bit of value like a 20 minute

Chad they're like well can you teach

this stuff to me I'm like you know first

I don't really know what to do I was

like well no like why would I teach you

what I know like it's it's competition

but then I started to realize like you

know this could actually help a lot of

people in you know 300 bucks 400 500

bucks for an hour of my time that's why

I started charging right so I was like I

got to the point I was like you know

what I'll just monetize these guys I'll

see what happens so first I start off at

100 bucks per hour right and I'll go

ahead I'll teach them you know basically

the basics of Instagram and how

everything works I got this to the

highest I think was charging like six

seven hundred bucks per hour to teach

people how to go viral on Instagram

connect on the sweet spot to be about

500 bucks an hour so about 500 bucks an

hour I chose that because I mean dude

that's a lot of money for me at the time

right and it's easier to close people

it's 500 bucks and at the same time I

knew that fellas charging that price you

know I wouldn't be like if I charge $99

the information is in the hands of

probably too many people if I charge 500

it's only going to the hands of serious

people right

it's and at that point I'm also

benefiting myself by charging more money

so monetizing through just going viral

that's how I was doing I was making 500

bucks an hour just through growing an

Instagram page because people would DM

me and ask me how to do it right and

then once you're on that call with them

instead of just leaving that call like

that which is what most people do right

most people sell them on a $500 call and

then leave them there oh sell them on

that 500 call tell them about Instagram

teach them about it and say hey do you

want me to just do this for you look

yeah I mean I don't have the time for

this I got this I don't got that I'm

like okay cool boom

my agency can do all this for you for

like 1500 2000 bucks per month

really yeah well do you need 10,000

followers a month it'll all be done for

you boom boom bang let's go up sign the

contract let's go they send the contract

boom what I have just done as I sold

somebody on a $5 consulting call and

then I've up sold amounts of account

services and now I took I turned a $5

one-time payment into a $1,500 per month

payment right all through growing viral

content hitting the explore page and

people just the enemy and that's it

literally monetizing DMS and the reason

why this works so well the reason why

you can charge that amount of money to

spam the person you didn't follow them

they message views right I don't even

close the calls dude I don't close these

calls like these guys come to me they're

curious they see that I

know my shit okay when you sell buy

results you don't need to know sales

break I don't know shit about sales

all's I know is how to get results and

that's why people pay me right I don't

sit down and try to like you know make

this big sales pitch

I don't read off a fund roof phone sales

I'm like sitting there and you know

being this wolf of Wall Street like no

I'm like here's what I do is what I can

do for you and they're like cool how can

I pay you and that's it so you just sell

based off results you don't even know

sales and all this crazy stuff you do

that's great probably sell more they

don't need to because I didn't know

sales are any that and so that's how I

literally started monetizing with less

than 1,000 followers getting people from

you know five draw consulting calls then

smartening up a little bit like hey what

if I just do this service for them and

all through gaming people and the reason

why that works for growing vials cuz

they messaged you you didn't spam them

with a link and it follow them first

they basically saw your results and they

buy into your results and that is the

best way to sell the best way to stop

anything on Instagram is to just show

that yourself and doing it and people

will buy it's absolutely crazy it's not

it's one of the favorite things that I

when I saw this on the webinars like

what the hell this is so much better

than shoutouts where you sell shoutouts

for twenty dollars a pop like you're not

gonna get enriched by doing that I mean

I've got the network now we're all get a

shout out request every day for like 20

bucks and I mean like half the time it's

like it's not even worth my time to

organize the whole post to help them how

were they I'm like now like I do shout

out requests where it's like like I'm

gonna run you to a certain amount of

followers and we charge like $250 per 1k

followers right with like a 10,000

follower order minimum that's what we do

now like massive shout-out bundles but

though the one shoutouts here in 2000

shouts they're like we don't even mess

with that because of how basically

non-profitable like its profitable meant

money in vs. money out you're making

money but my time is better off spent

elsewhere that's that's the biggest

thing you make so much more money doing

stuff like that am i doing stuff um you

know like shoutouts which we also I

think we talked talked about that on the

webinar

yeah and it's when you talk about the

the agency actually creating an agency

it's no harder than doing what you're

doing right now like you can monetize

your like let's say that you get someone

to contact you

you get him on a call there they're

already interested in what you're doing

and when you teach them you can show

some expertise that you really know what

you're doing yourself and you can kind

of get some credibility of I know

exactly what I'm doing I've already

shown you results I've already thought

you or aren't you what I know and how I

can grow your page now pay me and a lot

of people that actually has been

struggling a lot really want that

service and really want people that know

what they're doing to grow their

Instagram account because it's so damn

profitable mm-hmm yeah and more entering

Instagram and remember there's there's

unlimited clients on Instagram because

nobody knows what the hell they're doing

nobody right and that's when I realized

like when I started making like

trainings and stuff I realize like it's

okay for this information to get into

people because this stuff is like it's

literally never going to get saturated

right because there's just so many it's

such new stuff so feel like oh it's like

I got a lot of people mad at me right

they're like oh you're putting out like

all this great information like you're

gonna make the market saturated in the

year I'm like that's narrow-minded

thinking right completing their mind

like for things to go viral you actually

need collaboration so that's when I have

this like app if aney like hey we

actually need collaboration like I was

finding it very hard to go viral because

of how little people knew about going

viral so I was like okay well if I

starts actually teaching the masses this

it's gonna be easier for me to grow cuz

I have more people to work with now and

now it has like now it's it's easier

than ever for people to grow and it's

it's ethical it's not following somebody

to unfollow them it's done that stuff

and basically building up this whole

network of people and even so like most

people aren't even motive motivated

enough to make money or her growing

serum account so it's never really you

know it's not like everybody's gonna be

doing it that never happens right

otherwise everybody would be doing

everything no people are naturally lazy

your average person is just lazy anyway

yeah

then on Netflix so I think the

saturation like when people say oh is

this gonna get saturated or exactly it

saturate I say look at the music

industry are there still artists popping

up every day yes okay there is no such

thing as saturation right there's stuff

there's competitiveness like Facebook

ads is very competitive Google Ads is

very competitive

can ever be the point where nobody can

enter no but Instagram right now like

nobody's in on it so yeah you could go

on Facebook Ads you could give go

profitable with it I'm not saying

Facebook Ads don't work I'm not saying

any of these other things don't work but

what I'm saying is that Instagram is

ground floor level and yeah right now

you have the opportunity to build the

infrastructure you right it's like it's

like imagine you were part of building

Bitcoin like you're building Instagram

networks right now right you're not

buying Bitcoin at 18k you're buying

Bitcoin at 3k that's basically what

Instagram is to me at least yeah I was

researching Bitcoin like yet just before

this call and I was reading some

comments of people saying oh I missed

the boat when when when Bitcoin went

from like a hundred dollars to a

thousand dollars that was like and I had

the opportunity to get in on it on four

hundred dollars think about that that's

so I missed the boat I missed the boat

so hard and then eventually went to

twenty thousand dollars it's never gonna

be saturated it's never going to be when

it's cold when it comes to social media

you just got to be better than the other

person and the way you get better is to

get better information from the right

people that's what you have to do so for

anyone watching this video right now go

in the link in the description to watch

the webinar it's so much better than

this interview although this interview

is pretty damn good I have to say but

the interview shows you pictures and

videos about actually the strategies

that you can start doing and that

Anthony is doing but I have a few more

questions for you I really want to get

into so for a complete beginner that's

never grown on Instagram that's never

started anything from absolutely zero

subscribers what is the fastest way that

they can grow on Instagram the viral

methods 100% being able to rank content

on the explore page if you wanted a

really chunk it down let's say this

person is like let's just say you're

really dumb okay no offense but let's

just say this person is really really

dumb right

you know if you have the right

information if you're investing to the

right person probably about two weeks to

learn and again varied like um kind of

slow to get on prob about two weeks to

actually learn everything a week to

apply and about two hundred bucks per

month so if you're a little smarter you

know if you've been if you're you know

if you think a little tech-savvy

probably it all done in like a week two

weeks right if you're done maybe like a

month right so and so you can have this

whole thing running for like two hundred

bucks per month right from all you know

obviously just a little bit of services

you need and stuff like that and here's

a here's the thing like feel like oh but

you know it takes a little bit of money

look everything takes money go show me

where you can pull money out of thin

there right unless if you'd like look

you could you could listen you want to

go grow for free go manually follow and

unfollow 200 people I'm sorry a thousand

people per day at the end of the month

you'll have like 3000 followers maybe

you'll make like a 99 dollar sale or you

invest 200 bucks you go viral and you

gain 10,000 followers and you're gonna

make more than your spending see the the

thing is if first it's an investment

right you're investing into your account

your your when you first put in that two

hundred bucks or three hundred however

much it is you're not making anything

back right now first ones an investment

but then after that end of the first

month you have to put your next you know

you another 200 bucks in and then you're

making back 400 you're putting another

200 bucks or may come back 800 and the

build the business builds and builds and

builds and builds and then you're just

off to the races that's what it is I

always love when people were like oh I

would do this store I would do that but

you know cost money like only what free

like it's just like it's just a thing

where it's like look if you're not

willing to even invest like a couple

hundred bucks into yourself you don't

belong here

you don't belong and make money on

anything and that's just like it's a

cold truth but it's like you have to say

it they view it like I know people won't

even vest 50 bucks into themselves I'm

like dude I'll see you at McDonald's

that the absolute best investment that

you can do is in yourself you're worth

more like the knowledge you get from a

good course or a knowledge is actually

investing here in yourself and getting

smarter get learning the the fundamental

truths that you learn and I always like

saying this that if you work at this

like it's your hobby or if it's

something if you work at this

like it's some sidecut like I kind of

really don't want to do it even look

you're gonna make that amount of money

like right nothing exactly but if you

work at this like you're a multi-billion

dollar company you're go best in

yourself even if you start a restaurant

right now you can't do that for free hey

how can I start a restaurant for free it

doesn't work like that

right right and the people always they

get so caught up in like you know I'm

trying to find something I'm passionate

about I'm like look what are you really

like no one's really passionate about

like doing some like child love

Instagram right but what are you more

like what's your passion right to have

that freedom to have that you know

making money to live stress-free so it

doesn't really matter like I mean

obviously do something you like doing

but you know people stress out over too

much of I gotta find something I love

look anything becomes work after

everything becomes work but you have to

work you need that ambition to actually

have a better future to be able to make

money to he'll live that lifestyle you

don't have that drive to do that like

you don't have Drive to do anything you

know so I mean if that's your mindset

you're kind of fucked from the start

yeah exactly you got to pull all you

have into this you gotta take this like

it's your your escape

you're way out of the nine-to-five

shitty boss lifestyle that you're living

right now and say fuck that I'm not

gonna live this life anymore I'm gonna

do whatever it takes to make this happen

and there's a few ways you do that

there's a few ways that you can do that

you can do that with YouTube you can do

that with Amazon FBA Shopify but you

have to start you have to start at

something and you have to say whatever

it takes I'm gonna make it happen

because it's with your mentality or your

mindset before anything else first think

of it like it's a million dollar

business that you're going to start

right now

and secondly think whatever it takes I'm

gonna do it right now and start getting

results with it if you have that mindset

if you have that mentality you're going

to see a success if you think hey I'm

not gonna invest a hundred dollars into

this thing and also it's kind of I'm

afraid of this this is not for you this

is definitely not for you

that that's for anything online there's

do this three types of people people who

watch it happen people who make it

happen and people

wonder what the fuck just happened don't

want to be someone who does that yo you

want to be the one who makes it happen

you don't want to be someone who wonders

what happens or just sits back knows

what the fuck just happened like that's

who you don't want to be everyone makes

it happen I guess that both feet in the

door you know you can't be like you

can't you reach in this way and then be

reaching that way you have to fucking go

out at full force with anything that's

into anything

maybe like I don't want to do that I'm

like dude you have to do this with

anything has to be a hundred percent

yeah if you want to if you want to do

anything great in life it takes work and

it takes time and if you want to be a

five-star Michelin chef star or HF if

you want to be healthy and have a

six-pack if you want to have that if

you're a girl and have that luxurious

ass that everyone is in the club just

looking at and staring at you have to

work for that you have to work for that

to make it happen and when it comes to

business you also have to work for that

to make it happen so if this is

interesting to you at all just go in the

link in the description to watch the

webinar right now because it's a lot

more better than this interview like

this introduce kind of shit I would say

so go in the webinar right now so I've

already pitched the webinar a lot in

this in this call but I want to ask you

what you want to say to all the people

that want to start Instagram that want

to start making money with Instagram and

watch the webinar right now hmm

yeah well for what you're gonna learn

the webinar is basically we're gonna go

over the these lies like very in-depth

like going over you guys gonna see

pictures you guys see me really tell

much showing ah basically my story and

stuff like that um so basically if

you're serious if you want to actually

grow right if you're tired of gaining a

few thousand followers a month you're

tired of sucking shit at Instagram you

want to actually grow you want to

actually make some money and the

webinars a place you want to get on if

you don't then don't get on it's really

that simple like a it's really just like

if you're serious get on it if you're

not don't what else is there really to

say you don't know I put basically like

all these lies that we just talked about

you know I did this little interview for

Andy here and we got on this but the

webinar really goes over in very massive

amounts of detail um so if you want that

like

the opportunity to take notes on all

this and have visual images and stuff

like that then the webinars the spot for

you so you can you know look forward to

learning all that I also touch on some

of the growth strategies and stuff like

that how to know more in depth of how

the monetization process goes and stuff

so if you're serious about it if you

want to learn it and stuff like that

then the webinars a spot for you yeah

yeah and it's so good it's so good for

all the people watching you need to

watch that webinar right now it's so

good and I want to quickly touch upon so

you you've made a course as well right

and I really love the story of how you

actually created this course because

it's gives you so much like this is

actually of course people really really

want to get into right yeah it's funny

how the course can bus so initially I

didn't want to create a course like at

all like I I really I have it's kind of

like I didn't like courses because I was

like oh yeah people who make courses

they just don't know how to do it on

their own so they make a course to sell

and like that's in mine so I had um but

through like I was growing such all I

was growing like five accounts at a time

each and every see what five new

accounts five new accounts building on

my team hiring assistants hiring people

to build pages and and so member all

those curious leads I was talking about

well we got them and we got a lot of

them we got more of them that I could

handle right because the five accounts

starting up each week and they're grown

in their growing these pages just

pumping out content and it got to the

point where I was like I'm making a lot

of money consulting I only have 24 hours

in a day right on top of that my voice

can only last so long on the phone

before it starts getting chopped up and

dry and I you know I feel like I've been

like on stage and a rock concert know

like it's just Remo concert like I've

been screaming all like so my throat

feels like right and I to be honest with

you I kind of hated it like I love the

money but talking on the phone all day

is not my gig so I was like you know how

do i how do i free this up how do I in

our phone call I can only provide so

much right

you can only provide so much information

in one hour so how do I go ahead and I

make something where somebody you know

is paying basically the same now but

they're getting so much more the value

is so much higher and I'm saving a ton

of my time because I can't be on the

phone everybody forever you know so then

I realized I was like I have to make a

course so that you know what if I make a

course it's a gonna be that type of

course where it's like you go through it

and then you're left off and you can few

you don't really know what's going on

like I want to have a course I want of

course the over delivers teaches you

Instagram inside now stuff that nobody

else is talking about and then something

where it's like you can 24/7 support

help because I have someone who's taken

Belson's of course in the past the thing

that I hate is gonna have a question and

there's no email support or anything

like that right and I hate email

I hate checking emails and stuff so I

was like how do i how do I give

everybody 24/7 support so I started a

mastermind right a mastermind where

everybody who has taken the course

people who have gotten results people

who are winning people who have just

joined people have been in the course

for a year they can all go and at any

time you have a question you can post in

that group that question and you can get

basically immediate responses from

anyone including myself right so you

have over a hundred people instagramers

influencers hackers in this group go

ahead and offering 24/7 support so you

basically never lost right if there's a

quick thing going wrong or you know

something quick happens like posting the

group I don't put like restrictions on

am like yes and post anything obviously

there's a set of rules but that's it and

this is how the course came about

because I was so packed with consulting

I was like I can't do this I have no

time I can't you know my voice is

hurting really bad so that's what I made

the course I was like I want to make

this course basically like the best

thing that I can still updating its

tongue actually adding in a new module

next week for personal branding on

Instagram so that's gonna be coming too

so not only will you be able to grow

viral pages but also how to build your

own personal brand in your name if

that's something you want to do so that

should be in there like next week yeah

yeah it's always evolving it's always

going and getting better and better

because it's Internet and everything is

growing you can't have a college degree

curriculum that never upstate updates

itself you have to keep on top of how to

grow how to get the best results with

Instagram and Anthony is doing a perfect

job on doing that so guys the last time

to go in the webinar down below check

out the webinar also check out the viral

venom that it's called

at the end of the webinar you can get

that as well but this is no pitchfest

webinar just know I'm gonna I'm gonna

show you just a tiny little piece of

information and then sell and sell and

sell them sell

this is not something like that because

I hate that personally I've seen so many

webinars and so many people come on and

just teach just like shit things but

this is actually the way that you grow

in Instagram you can learn so much if

you take the information that you

learned from the webinar and actually go

do it you can actually see results with

with the strategies just the stuff on

the free webinar for sure absolutely so

that is going to be the interview thank

you so much for being here Anthony and

it has been shit is that what you say

often so shit no it's always fun having

you on and we'll talk soon man yeah

definitely thanks having me out Andy I'm

hope you guys took massive value at this

video if you did make sure you give it a

like for me give it a like for Andy let

us know what you think in the comments

I'll try to Andy I'll try to come over

here if you guys have questions leave

them in the comments I'll try to come

over here and like answer some of them

so you guys that's 500 leave um and yeah

well I was gonna meet video watching

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