all right how's it going today guys so
I'm here with a man that really needs no
introduction I'm sure everybody here
knows Graham Stefan
you better know Graham it's a
long-awaited collaboration he actually
just kind of came out while I was here
in San Diego so I really appreciate you
driving out so we could meet up and
shoot some content for you guys yeah
this is fun yeah definitely so what I
want to talk about in this video here is
this was a concept this was like one of
the first videos I saw on your channel
much anywhere you want to for free by
basically house hacking so I think it'd
be cool to go into more details about
that and how people can actually like
implement this strategy yeah now this is
something I had been doing really for
the last three years and this is such an
eye-opener for me to be able to do this
the first one was a house I bought in
Culver City I bought it I fixed it up
and I was there for a year now what I
did that sort of renovation I just think
I spent like 70 80 thousand dollars
fixing up this house and it was
instantly worth like an extra 100 to 150
thousand dollars more just instantly
just by fixing it off
so by doing that I was busy it was
basically like I just made 150 grand Wow
could live there and then rent it out
after the first year and that's what I
did and then I moved into a duplex and
when I moved into the duplex I mean that
was really just like a game changer for
me because I was able to buy this place
so it's me a few months to buy it
renovate it I added value when I
renovated the property and then the
other unit is being rented out now
between the rent on the other units my
tax write-offs and the equity I get from
paying down the mortgage every month
that places a break-even for me to own
sure and all I had to do was come up
with the down payment it gets even
better but because the value of that
property went up because I renovated it
I was able to refinance that property
pull most of my money out of it and
basically now I've almost got a free
place to live so you got your down
payment out of the property I got the
majority of my money on it okay so most
of your money came out of it and then
the person and the other unit is
floating your mortgage tracked and so
you're essentially living for free right
as long as you have a tenant in that
other unit yes right Wow and I'm in the
process now buying another duplex where
I could do the exact same thing and my
goal is if I can get
a duplex or triplex you know every year
and just I don't mind moving from place
to place to place sure as they go
through but it's a way for me to amass a
pretty decent real estate portfolio
while living for free at the same time
and that allows me to save up even more
money to get the next place so it's kind
of like a self fulfilling amazing way to
grow your real estate portfolio right
and I would imagine that speeds up as
you have more properties right because
you have some that are producing
positive cash for you yeah yeah so when
you move out of a place ideally since
you've been living for free you should
be cashflow positive even if you're just
breaking even on everything it doesn't
really matter because you're paying down
the loan so over the course of twenty or
thirty years you're gonna have a paid
off place that's basically just printing
money yeah and every year a new one is
gonna be paid off that should be just
printing money and if even if you can
get like do this four times in your
twenties mm-hmm you're gonna have in
your 50s four places maybe eight to ten
twelve units that are paid off just
making money and that's really one of
the best strategies that I see out there
for anyone who wants to get started
investing in real estate or also house
hacking yeah and so I guess one question
I have because I've never really owned
real estate I want to down the road but
I've also heard like from my dad and
people like you don't want to own real
estate your tenants are going to be
giving you so much trouble and I'm sure
you have like I've seen the horror
stories on your channel but like overall
if you could talk about the whole
experience
has it been worth it owning real estate
100% I would say the hassles of having a
tenant are very minimal I've had one bad
tenant and that was entirely my fault
and I've owned up to it basically I made
every single mistake possible it was the
first tenant I ever picked first tenant
that ever called me I was short on cash
I was desperate I picked the first
person to come in I made every edit and
there's so many red flags yeah just like
being a cash business but you were like
so eager to get it rented that you over
looked at all and just said I got to get
some money coming out of this thing I
overlooked everything and I had to evict
a tenant that basically cost me a year's
worth of profit on that on that house
broker I mean it wasn't devastating it's
not like I made money on them still but
it was just like I lost a year's worth
of profit they were there for like two
years so you know it's like I basically
got half the rent I should have for the
first year
it's not the end of the world it was a
terrible experience to go through but
since then working with tenants has
actually been overall Pleasant you get
the occasional call early in the morning
it's usually just an inconvenience like
you're keeping in let's say you were out
late the night before 7:00 a.m. comes
along and like the water pipe broke and
like there's no sense conversations yeah
it's a lot of very little nuisance
conversations that don't really happen
that often but what they do it's just
like oh of course now it's got to happen
like I think it was a Sunday night I
think 9 p.m. this was just a few months
ago water was bubbling up from the front
yard and I was like what do you mean
water is bubbling up but apparently a
water pipe at bursts underneath the
ground really caused water to scrub so
you know I call the plumber they came
out the next day they fixed it I think
there's $400 to fix it and that was I
mean that's the little yeah and I mean
you're not fixing this stuff yourself
right for the most part you're just the
middleman they call you and then you
call the person to fix this so it's just
kind of that go-between yeah now one of
the things when you own rental property
is that you could not deduct for your
own labor so if I were to go and fix it
myself and if it took me three hours to
go do that I couldn't just charge myself
$200 an hour and then deduct that oh I
didn't know that
yeah the manage to hiring somebody to do
this for you correct now unless you're a
really handy person and you know plenty
of time on your hands to do it for free
by all means it's just I see all of that
is a write-off so there's no sense in me
doing this but I could pay someone else
and that's just a right off against the
income yeah I think it's just such a
smart idea to do this and like I have
friends who are doing it and you can
even do this like single family to write
by basically having a single family
house and renting out the rooms yeah now
obviously with that you have to be like
willing to be in the personal space with
these people but like you know I have
like my cousin for example he decided to
basically rent out the extra rooms in
his house to his friends and he lives
for free yeah so you don't have to
necessarily buy like a two or three
family property you could do it with
single family as long as you're super
comfortable with the people you're
living with but right I think that it's
just so like important to consider doing
that and then it frees up a lot of your
money that's not going into your housing
right yeah now two things of that one
if you end up getting a house rent think
of the bedrooms I'm all for that the
only downside in doing that is that a
lender won't really consider the income
that you're getting from all the other
bedrooms when applying for more real
estate like if you have three units a
lender will take the income on those
other units and apply it towards your
mortgage you can't go to a lender and
say I'm gonna buy a five bedroom house
and each bedroom is gonna rent out for a
thousand dollars a month okay well you
apply four thousand of that towards my
mortgage so it doesn't count as income
that's you can use to buy your next
property correct or if you have other
units you can use that income okay
that's what the mortgage but if you end
up buying a house and you decide wait a
second I don't need this third bedroom
rent it out right like it to me that's
just like no-brainer fifteen hundred
bucks a month or a thousand a month or
seven hundred a month just for someone
living in a bedroom right the easiest
money that I'm on if you would you would
ever get and you can do the same thing
if you're renting a place if you're
renting a five bedroom house and you
realized wait I don't need five do you
know I need three bedrooms and rent out
two of their rooms get some friends in
there who don't mind now hanging out
with you and rent out the rooms it's
just today that's it's easy money easy
money I agree so I guess if you're
looking to own many properties down the
road you should probably go multifamily
right now if you're doing it that but if
you're just looking to not spend so much
money on housing and take advantage of
the space you have you know single
family works - yeah very interesting
either works you can also get into if
you want to get more complex and I've
discussed this before rhett hacking
we're open even you can live forever
throw it into this video let's tie it
all together rent okay yeah even rent
hacking is if you're gonna rent a let's
say a four bedroom home knowing that you
don't need four bedrooms but if you can
rent out two of those bedrooms enough to
pay your entire rent by all means or
rent out three in the bedroom oh so
you're renting something larger than you
need for yourself with the intention of
renting that speaks to somebody else
yeah Oh cover your car yeah that makes a
lot of ring your cost down dramatically
I have seen many people rent four or
five bedroom houses live in one of the
bedrooms they rent out the other three
and that's enough to cover their entire
rent payment so they essentially will
live for free you have to check your
lease agreement because some of these
lease agreements do say no subletting so
that's very important okay that you have
that
writing that the owner is okay with you
actually doing this in the fruit you
don't want it yes and they're gonna do
it rent a five-bedroom yeah go I have
five people to be here we have five cars
to park you know ya know because
definitely as an agent and landlord
myself I'm always suspicious when you
have a big house for rent and it's just
like oh it's just for me and I'm like I
don't think it's really just for you you
have a lot of friends yeah
people are gonna be staying with you if
you have a family we don't know about
you know so usually you kind of know but
just make sure you get that in writing
and be upfront with your landlord as
well on that one yeah definitely
all right Graham well thanks so much for
doing this video here that is how you
can live anywhere you want pretty much
in the world for free as long as you
follow you know one of these strategies
outlined here and maybe you will have
some headaches involved with that with
you know nuisance phone calls your your
roommates being loud at night or
something but I mean I think the the
benefits would far outweigh the you know
the cons from that and all those
annoyances and one last thing I do want
to throw in even though we say it's free
you do need to save up enough for a down
payment I'm sure all of this basically
requires you to have enough foresight to
save money for a down payment get your
credit score to a place where lenders
will give you a loan and show income to
prove that you have the ability to repay
back that loan you can't just go and buy
a duplex no money down no credit no
income live for free it's not gonna
happen sure but if you can come up with
a anywhere between 10 and 20 percent
down payment you got the credit you got
the income all of this is really
possible if you just save up enough for
the down payment like the way I think
about it you just save up a down payment
and that can basically float you for
decades and that's it yeah you could you
roll it into the next one and keep going
forward right makes a lot of sense yeah
all right guys so I have one more video
planned with Graham so keep an eye on
that for the next couple of days
but if you guys are not subscribed to
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you guys are like looking to learn more
about real estate Graham Stefan is
definitely your guy no thanks for coming
on the channel thank you so much
appreciate it we will see you guys in
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