Everyone is Wrong About the i9 MacBook Pro (2018) #Helpful Post

Apple is with the 2018 MacBook Pro 15

inch you guys johnathan you hope you're

doing well I'm excited I am pumped up

worked up

it's another Apple release another

controversy this one we might as well

dub throttle gate but cooling kick back

relax because it's going to be

interesting to say the least so by now

I'm sure you've seen the wave of videos

hit the internet lock up your kids

because the core i9 MacBook Pro is here

your core I 9 my throttle itself to the

same performance as the 87 58 but hey we

gave you a core 9 and does it your

laptop look really pretty and this

thermal throttling down to two point

three two point nine two point three two

point nine that's insane this means that

the throttling could be even more severe

and further closed the gap between an i7

in an i-9 MacBook Pro so there was one

video in particular for mr. Dave 2d he's

a great friend even better human being

and there was so much truth in that

video so many things I agree with but

the overall outcome that video I think

was a little skewed so this is the point

where a lot of you out there are jumping

out of your chairs typing furiously into

your keyboard but before you do hear me

out because there is a lot to talk about

before I go any further though and throw

this out there there is no arguments I

100% agree this MacBook Pro design is

not taking full advantage of the chips

inside this machine but the thing is

most laptops whether they're Mac or

Windows aren't either

unless you have some giant five six

pound laptop that has a cooling chassis

which at that point you almost - we'll

bring it desktop around it's just

physics when you have a processor with

that many cores without high of a clock

speed you're going to run into thermal

problems beyond that though I'm going

into this as open minded as possible if

you guys want to see a comparison of

something like a Dell XPS 15 that also

has a core and drop a like and I will

happily order one of those to compare

now I think this is gonna end up being a

multi-part series in this first video

I'm gonna tackle the i9 versus the i7

and kind of address the issue of if the

more expensive i-96 core is actually

slower than the cheaper six core i7 and

spoiler alert it's not now before I jump

into my test just to quickly explain why

I think Dave's video was a little skewed

is the

test to use was honestly the perfect

recipe to completely cripple your

computer he took five K read raw footage

which will eat your computer alive

brought that into Premiere Pro which

isn't optimized to begin with and then

exported that into a 4k ace a 264 file

now I think the best way I could paint a

picture with that is this is your shiny

new MacBook Pro and this is red raw

footage in from your pro so there was an

interesting article from John Poole the

creator of Geekbench where he talks

about applications like Premiere Pro

using both the CPU and the GPU and if

the GPU is starting to tax out and heat

up that could actually lead to

bottlenecking of the cpu again yes the

MacBook Pro could 100% use a better

thermal design to take advantage of the

power inside but in this case it's more

of a story of Premiere Pro being

terribly optimized that is leading

towards more bottlenecking

again before you freak out please please

please please watch this video

thoroughly I spent the last two days

testing testing testing and more testing

trying to make this as diverse and open

as possible using everything from

Lightroom to Premiere Pro to Final Cut

Pro 10 DaVinci Resolve handbrake

transcoding 280 VC then using everything

from a Sony a7 3 all the way up to an

Arri Alexa Mini for this run a test

again these are both 6 core MacBook Pros

that is the most expensive eye 9

processor against the baseline 2.2

gigahertz i7 both machines were plugged

into power at all times and then all

projects and files will run off an

external OWCA under blade v4 SSD

also for the one got that it's gonna

flip out and say that's not fair why

don't you run the projects off the

internal MacBook Pro SSDs that would be

the most even way to do it but if you

ever dealt with large files especially

if you use a baseline MacBook Pro with

tuned and 50/60 good bytes of flash

storage that is nowhere near enough

space to run all these files so this is

the fairest possible way to do that so

for the first round of tests we are

looking at Adobe Lightroom classic CC

which is pretty much the go-to editing

application for photos for this

particular test I actually linked up

with mr. Tyler Stallman he's a great

photographer super talented creator and

he actually hooked me up with 100

megapixel Hasselblad of raw photos which

is crazy for the first test I imported

50 of those photos and built a one by

one preview and the cool waianae macbook

was about a minute faster than the

baseline MacBook Pro from there I then

took those 50 raah photos applied a

creative look and then export of those

in the JPEG and again

the Coraline MacBook Pro was about a

minute faster now the general consensus

or reaction to those results that I've

seen on Twitter is ooh big deal I saved

the whole minute is that really worth

three or four hundred dollars into that

I say grab a dictionary and look up

extrapolation

next up from there is Adobe Premiere Pro

CC and again I wanted to make this as

diverse as possible because not only

does the program matter the camera as

well as the codec plays a factor as well

first up I took 4k Arri Alexa Mini Pro

res footage just drop that into a 4k

timeline and then bounce that into a 4k

h.264 file in this case the core I nine

MacBook Pro was about two minutes faster

I think the big thing here is the codec

is super efficient so if you shoot video

and you can shoot pro res it is much

much easier on your computer from there

next up is 5k red raw footage which is

very similar to Dave 2ds test it's

extremely extremely taxing on the

computer so I 100% no arguments all

thermal throttling here the what I did

was take that 5k footage drop it in a 4k

timeline and then export that into a 4k

h.264 file this test took for to the

point where it pushed these MacBook Pros

to its knees and honestly you could

probably cook an egg on one of these

machines it got to the point where was

about a hundred degrees Celsius so Apple

in this case yeah there's no arguing the

MacBook Pro needs a better thermal

solution surprisingly though or maybe

unsurprising the I nine MacBook Pro was

again about two minutes faster than the

baseline model next from there I wanted

to do a more common scenario because I

get it not everyone's shooting red or

airy so I took Sony a7 three footage 4k

100 megabits and then dropped that into

a 1080p timeline and then bounced that

into a 1080p h.264 file so once again

the eye 9 MacBook Pro was about two

minutes faster than the baseline i7

which lines up in pretty much every test

so far I've done in Premiere Pro but

where I saw the biggest difference

between these two models is actually

using Canon C 200 raw light footage now

big shout-out to mando bytes for sending

this footage over so I can really make

these rounds of test diverse he actually

did a really interesting video on his

eye Mac Pro versus a deck delt

custom-built PC so I chopped a link down

below make sure you guys check that out

but yeah with the i9 MacBook Pro it was

about 10 minutes faster than the

baseline i7 model which in this case is

a huge difference

next from there it's time to jump over

to Final Cut Pro 10 and a theme you'll

see what this is it is so much faster

than Premiere Pro it's not even funny at

this point I do want to state with these

Final Cut Pro test I did leave

background rendering off so these

timelines working

the unrendered as exported because

that's going to give us the truest

representation of how these machines

actually work that also means if these

timelines were rendered the exports

would be even faster but as you'll see

even with back or under and off the

exports are crazy fast so first up is

that Arri Alexa Mini 4k Pro res footage

pretty much an identical timeline to

what I used in Premiere Pro the only

difference is in Final Cut Pro with back

row rendering off it's still exported

these in the two minute realm now

because Pro res is so efficient you're

not really needing a ton of processing

power so if you edit natively in Pro res

and don't need a transcode there might

not be a huge reason to go to i9 but

it's still faster nonetheless next from

there I took that 5k red raw footage

about five minutes of that and an export

of that in to pro res 42 again much

faster than Premiere Pro but the big

difference here is the i9 was actually

about three minutes faster which is more

of a big deal next up from there is Sony

a7 three footage again this is 4k 100

megabit dropped into a 1080p timeline

and then exported into a 1080p a shot to

64 file once again the i-9 is definitely

faster than the baseline i7 MacBook Pro

but it depends how much you need that

speed so if you shoot a lot of a7

footage and maybe that isn't super

tempting to use and I would honestly

stay with the i7 because it's gonna

perform great with tasks like that next

from there in Final Cut Pro 10 jumping

back to the candidacy to enter raw Lite

footage where we saw exports in Premiere

Pro of 28 and 38 minutes we saw export

speeds of 9 minutes and 7 minutes on

these MacBook Pros again here the i9 is

the faster machine and for the most part

that kind of seems to be the going rate

about one to three minutes of

performance difference obviously there

are variables maybe you're using Pro res

maybe you're working in 1080p and those

instances where the performance isn't

huge that's where you got to decide is

the i9 or the i7 better for me now yes I

use Final Cut Pro to edit every single

one of my videos the video you're

watching right now is edited in Final

Cut Pro 10 I don't want to turn this

into a Final Cut versus Premiere war but

I think if you're editing on a Mac at

least give Final Cut Pro a shot or maybe

even try to Vinci resolve because that

is light-years faster than Premiere Pro

as well in DaVinci Resolve I took that

candidacy to win a raw footage exported

that into an h.264 file and it was

honestly almost as fast as Final Cut Pro

10 and again

miles faster than Premiere Pro so Adobe

you really need to step up the

performance next from there using

handbrake I took an MKV blu-ray rip of

garden's the galaxy

and then transcoded that into h.264 once

again the i9 macbook pro was about two

minutes faster from there I took a

22-minute for ka saath 264 file and then

transclude that in compressor to 4k HEV

see in this case the i9 MacBook Pro was

a little over a minute faster so it's

not a huge difference but where I'm

willing to bet the bigger difference is

is jumping from 6 core to last year's

quad-core and that'll definitely be next

up in the testing so it's been quite the

mouthful my brain is just about melted

you see in certain cases where the

iodine actually makes sense in certain

cases it doesn't but hopefully you found

this video helpful there's more testing

to be done though last year's model

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