Get a Job. - Radeon VII Review #Helpful Post

you know what Andy fans I actually feel

bad for you for ten years you've had to

give your hard-earned money to either

Intel or Nvidia or both if you wanted to

build a top-of-the-line gaming r8 AMD

just hasn't been able to get both their

CPU and GPU business units firing at the

same time but perhaps that all changes

today

AMD stunned the industry as a whole when

they unveiled their GeForce RTX

competitor the Radeon seven one month

ago and then they stunned me in

particular when it arrived in our office

on time for their target launch date of

February 7th it isn't it beautiful it is

and it's got RGB but is it good enough

to pressure Nvidia to lower their higher

than ever prices for enthusiast gaming

GPUs well we'll find out soon thanks to

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let's begin with the bad news for those

of you who like living on the bleeding

edge AMD 7 nanometer Vega offering has

no support for ray tracing nor does it

have any kind of equivalent to invidious

deep learning optimized tensor course

now AMD has said that they're looking

into implementing something similar to D

LSS super sampling in the long term

using Microsoft's new direct ml API but

only time will tell if they get that

done and what kind of performance hit

we'd be looking at what we've got here

is actually if you look closely it's

right in the name basically a die shrunk

and optimized Vegas sequel but that's

not necessarily a bad thing let's take a

closer look right out of the gate it's

clear that AMD considers cooling to be

of the utmost importance while the

previous gen Vegas 64 used a blower

design the Radeon 7 3 cooling fans on a

large not to mention heavy vapor chamber

cooler just like it to our TX

competitors speaking of which not only

as the Radeon 7/8 taller card than the

RT X 2080 that AMD has positioned it

against it's also got twin 8 pin PCI

Express power connectors to allow it to

suck up more juice come to think of it

that's kind of weird normally die

shrinks come with a power savings ah

right so as far as we can tell they

basically put their entire power budget

savings towards cranking the clock

speeds up on this thing interesting so

ok then an overclocked and evolved Vega

I can dig it did they do anything else

to differentiate it from last gen oh

right yeah they did how does double the

HBM 2 memory at double the bandwidth

sound to put that into perspective the

Radeon 7 has faster memory than any of

the GTX Titans or r-tx Titans for that

matter but will that massive memory

bandwidth and significant core clock

increase make up for the loss of a

handful of stream processors and will

its resulting overall performance make

up for the lack of rate

singer/dancer course at this price to

find out we've brought out both our

Intel and AMD gaming test benches to pit

it head-to-head against not only the

r-tx twenty eighty and twenty atti but

also the Vegas 64 to see just what

impact those compromises had on the

cards performance so as is tradition by

now AMD seems to do worse and DirectX 11

titles than Nvidia but maintains an edge

or trades blows with team green whenever

DirectX 12 is in play which extends to

Far Cry 5 and especially csgo where our

RTX 2080 gets beaten by a pretty

significant margin when we throw

synthetics into the mix we see a

reversal of the DirectX 11 and 12

performance from earlier which come to

think of it is why we stopped using

synthetic benchmarks years ago I mean

this isn't even this isn't even

representative of real-world performance

Anthony was the one who brought them

back I think I'm gonna have a word with

them when we're done this video about

just killing them again once and for all

anyway moving on to productivity we've

got more tradition with AMD's Radeon

seven-pole ahead of even the 2080 ti in

longer blender renders while falling far

behind in v-ray in Lux mark the seventh

straight up embarrasses Nvidia across

the board but then inspect view perf

which gives us a broader look at its

workstation chops we've got a game of

leapfrog going on

so workloads that are particularly

memory hungry like katiya energy medical

and siemens NX show pretty strong wins

for AMD but in some cases again eclipse

even the 2080 ti while nvidia takes the

crown in workloads that require raw

compute strength sometimes again by

broad margins when we look at thermals

things get a little interesting now

traditionally GPU temperatures are

measured by a sensor at the edge of the

die and this is the temperature we're

showing you guys right now but AMD has

actually doubled the number of sensors

on the radio in seven and both the fan

speed and boost controls are mated to

what they're calling the junction

temperature with a target of 110 degrees

Celsius so the TLDR then is that the

junction is

highest reading out of all 64 sensors

and they claim that by doing things this

way they can squeeze more efficiency out

of the GPU unfortunately that also means

that the fans begin to ramp up much

sooner than you might be used to at a

junction temperature of 95 degrees and

he does say though that you can increase

this to 105 in their wot man software

without any risk of damaging the card

speaking of wot men we found that we

couldn't really push the core clocks up

at all without running into issues with

either early thermal throttling or

general instability so this supports our

pre overclocked hypothesis but we will

have to wait for more mature drivers and

for partner boards with more robust

power delivery before we can say

anything conclusively so verdict time

then given our results and the Radeon

seven 700 dollar price tag we're kind of

inclined to agree with Nvidia CEO and

curiously dr. Lisa Seussical Jenson

Huang it's a bit underwhelming yes for

the same price as a reference RT X 2080

you get similar performance in

traditional games but and videos overall

feature set is simply more robust maybe

you don't care about real time rate

racing or maybe you don't care about

GeForce experience or maybe you don't

care about Nvidia superior Hardware

h.264 encoder but take it all together

odds are you'll care about at least one

of invidious features so in our minds

then the Radeon 7

to beat the RT X xx 80s price not match

it and the frustrating thing is that if

it weren't for the massive HBM 2 frame

buffer they probably could have the word

on the street is that just shy of half

of the cost of this card is in that 16

gigs of memory that depending on the

game might never be utilized more than

75% now if we had to guess we'd say what

probably happened here was that rather

than re-engineering a gaming tuned card

with eight or twelve gigs of memory and

I don't know more stream processors or

something am

recycled their enterprise compute card

the radio and instinct mi 50 which would

also explain the excellent productivity

numbers

whatever the reason though that

compromise means that while the Radeon

seven is an excellent maybe even ideal

card for content creators by day gamers

by night or really anyone who uses

OpenCL a fair bit the value proposition

against team green is merely okay for

peer gamers don't get me wrong this

gives us a choice in the market for sure

and I'm I'm super glad that AMD released

it today it's just not quite the price

or performance disrupter that we were

all hoping for in the wake of invidious

stiff r-tx tax and as it stands it looks

like we're just gonna have to live with

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