Opening the ULTIMATE PC! - Intel's 28 Core Xeon W #Helpful Post

Oh what I'm like Anthony just make sure

you tell me when you press the button so

when it starts I'm not just standing

here looking like an idiot but clearly

totally unintentional so this is

something that I am actually pretty

excited to open up now here's the funny

thing when Intel launched there I even I

don't even know what exactly they're

calling this platform like because it's

not their workstation platform that's on

lg8 2066 and it's certainly not a server

platform because that is on LGA 3647 but

it uses different chipsets it uses

different chips you can do dual socket

and all that stuff this is the weird in

between when Intel launched what's

inside this box

they actually completely left us out of

the party they were I didn't even know

that they had brought it to market yet

until I saw videos and articles from

other people and I was like hey so you

guys launched the overclockable 28 core

processor huh and they're like yep and I

was like oh well we would have loved to

do a review of that and they were like

oh really it didn't really seem like

your style and I was like what what are

you doing no no actually I kept myself

very calm and collected and you know it

was all very dignified everything anyway

anyway the point is we are writing this

wrong and we have gotten our hands on

the new Xeon w what is it 3175 Anthony

is that 3175

X excuse me I meant I meant 3175 X but

the thing about this product is that

Intel apparently doesn't trust people to

like use it properly so they have gone

as far as to not just send over the CPU

but even send over

a completely built system with the CPU

integrated into it for our use so we are

gonna go ahead and we are gonna open

this up and we are gonna have my first

hands-on experience with the 31 75 X Oh

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let's move on so this is one of those

situations where I kind of wish that we

had prepared for the stream at all

rather than just pulling this off the

pallet and then getting started because

if I'd known that this was like a box

within a box on top of a box situation I

might have removed one of the boxes so

we don't have to wait so long but Intel

clearly wasn't taking any chances

that this would get damaged in shipping

so they have gone ahead and they have

double packed it on top of shipping it

inside a crate rather than via

traditional courier this is a fun one

I'm really not sure what the rationale

was here but even on the inside box okay

make sure you handle that with care okay

I guess yeah is that just a message to

me directly very subtle very subtle you

guys okay so we've got some accessories

here this looks like the cables from an

EVGA power supply including one of those

ever so beefy and again I forget with

c19 I want to say I want to say see 19

connectors can't remember it doesn't

matter

some modular power cables for the inside

of the system

okay I'm included copy of Windows RGB

RGB control for the system they got

their priorities straight

what's that fragile right well the box

the box isn't fragile boxes finding all

the packing materials here we go

this thing is so friggin heavy and the

crazy part is that I don't get this they

shipped an entire duel either 120 or

dual 140 millimeter liquid cooling

system separately so am I expected to

install the cooler myself I mean like

that's fine I'm fully capable of

installing a water cooler I just mean if

you were gonna go to the trouble of pre

building the system for reviewers I

would say that installing like a custom

grade CPU water cooler like this is

probably about as difficult as it gets

so maybe out - there's really dry here

right now okay oh boy I could have read

all the notes that Intel sent over on

this but I figured Anthony's right there

he's read the notes he can tell me if

I'm super important soaring everyone rip

rip all the users of the 84 xx and

really anything else with nice accurate

sound reproduction because that noise

was truly spectacular ly awful all right

so this is actually gonna be my first

look at gigabytes board for Intel's I

guess we would call why don't we call it

what do we want to call it high-end

workstation cuz like the thing is you've

got your you've got your consumer which

is on LGA 1150 whatever we're on now 55

right now can't remember it was 56 then

50 51 50 I don't know it's one of those

so you've got your 11 5x consumer

platform

you've got your xx xx you know a TD T

high-end

platform then you've got entry-level

work stations on LGA 2066 then we've got

ya hues high-end workstation on 3167

so that is probably why where should I

put this tempered glass I don't want

this to break I'm gonna put it inside

this box that seemed safe so this is

probably why Intel included a new cooler

for me do you guys do you guys want me

to install it on streem I mean I guess

if we're like if we're if we're

streaming the experience here we might

as well do it because this is a very

kludged together looking solution right

here

so what makes this platform stand out

from the other ones in Intel's lineup

well there are a couple of things first

and foremost it uses an entirely

different socket so as I alluded to

before this is LGA 3647 so that is like

what 50% more pins than 2066 more than

50% more pins now what are they doing

with all of those pins I'm glad you

asked so a couple of things number one

is they need more power because LGA 3647

at this time goes up to 28 processing

cores as opposed to 18 processing cores

in the high in the low-end workstation

high-end desktop socket LGA 2066

the other thing that these extra pins do

is handle the additional memory channels

that are available to this CPU so when

you have all those course you need a ton

of memory bandwidth in order to keep

them all fed so you can see here we've

got six memory sticks installed but

we've also got an additional six

available ddr4 memory slots so this is a

six channel memory controller not quite

as many as AMD has on epic but you know

hey who's keeping count anyway alright

what else do we have here oh yeah this

is fun so everything about this

motherboard is basically super-sized you

know what I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna

pull this graphics card for now just so

that we can get

a bit of a better look at it so the

socket is actually pretty much the takes

up the entire area under that copper

plate there and I'll talk through this

cooling solution and why it's not really

that great once I've popped it off but

the socket is like I don't know five or

six X the size of a consumer socket the

board itself actually Anthony can I ask

a favor of you

can you stop monitoring the stream for

like 30 seconds and grab me an ATX board

just like just like that blue PCB Intel

one that's in the little like paper

thing full of other boards you know

they're just the slighty thing yeah just

like one of those would be great this is

gonna come out I swear I have undone

this group okay there it goes all right

so the motherboard is super-sized

a standard ATX board would be about from

here to here down to here and then would

contain one two three four five six

seven expansion slots now this one also

has seven two three four five six seven

seven expansion slots except for one

critical difference there's actually a

gap of three expansion slots between

where the i/o would normally end on a

standard motherboard an ATX motherboard

and where the PCI Express expansion

would begin but all that space is

getting taken up because while here

thank you check this out ATX motherboard

for scale this all the way over here

this is still motherboard folks it is

like double the size so here's another

thing that's taking up mondo space on a

standard motherboard this area up here

kind of in between the CPU socket and

the top and then in between the CPU

socket and the i/o of the board is

typically reserved for your vrm so

that's where you take your 12 volt DC

that's coming out of your power supply

and you turn it into nice clean stable

power at the voltage that your

particular CPU requires well that space

wasn't enough and instead this entire

segment of the board all the way along

the top with this gigantic heat pipe

cooler and for cooling fans on it is the

vrm that my friends is exactly how much

power intel expects could be consumed by

this cpu now the thing is that this

socket exists in the server space where

motherboards really do just have about

this much PCB space dedicated for vrm so

what's the deal here it's because of the

overclocking so those boards are

intended to run CPUs that are just

running within spec there's going to be

world-record subzero overclockers

fooling around with these things so they

needed to make sure that they were beefy

enough to handle multiple times over

potentially the power draw of what you'd

get even with a 28 core Xeon running on

a standard server what else is what else

is exceptional about this thing I'm

actually gonna start I'm gonna start

pulling it out so oh man where do we

even where do we even start with this

they've gone and kind of cable managed

everything okay why don't we find out

what else we're dealing with here so

we've got a 1080 T i/o we're gonna need

to replace that we're gonna need

something 20 atti class by the time we

fire this up right Anthony yet probably

but not just yet I've got one in my

office that we can actually borrow from

my bench I was working on the roof 8k

red footage video today you know what I

know why this sorry everyone I know why

this is so heavy I'm gonna go ahead and

pull the tempered glass panel off the

back here so between these two tempered

glass panels this thing just weighs way

too much it's way too much get it way

too much mass you can't fire me you

can't fire me because I already fired me

that joke was terrible

David do you promise not to trip over

this if I put it here okay all right all

right

I'm gonna put it up here then it's

probably fine probably fine okay so

let's go ahead and look at what all they

installed in this thing oh there's some

there's some sorry there's some pretty

fun hardware in there so they threw in

one of the UDOT two versions of their

905 P series octane SSDs so that looks

like it's gonna be our boot drive down

there

we've got EVGA supernova 1600 T - that's

an 80 plus titanium 1600 watt power

supply of course and all the fans and

everything are hooked up so this must be

like one of their demo systems because

even though it's got you know some

pretty nice hardware and decent cable

management and everything like it

doesn't have the i/o shield or anything

like that and so this has got to be like

an early early sample board it's this is

a funny thing to me you've got so many

PCI Express Lanes so these things are

equipped with thighs at 48 Anthony 48 so

48 PCI Express gen3 lanes but there's

almost none of it dedicated to IO here I

remember I remember noticing this about

one of a Seuss's early engineering like

prototype grade boards for this platform

but a lot of time what you'll see on

like repurposed server hardware for

desktop use is you'll see like gaps like

this where stuff that wouldn't make

sense on the desktop like VGA and like a

serial port might just get left off and

then the gaps on the PCB are just left

so that they don't have to redesign that

for what is definitely going to be a

very very low volume part they only have

to redesign the parts of the board that

they actually need to change and then

they'll just reuse other stuff so I

think that's why we ended up with really

bare-bones i/o on this particular board

at least that's one theory

like I don't actually know for sure so

I'm gonna go ahead and start start

popping things off here so note as we go

all the connectors I'm removing so that

is two 6-pin PCI Express connectors

going into the motherboard right there

those are for apparently their OC peg

underscore one now I don't know if those

are for high power draw graphics cards

being in here because you could put up

to four graphics cards in here and

remember even though 4 Way SLI is dead

as of I think two generations ago or

whenever it was overclockers are still

able to enable it for certain benchmarks

so I don't know if these are for that or

if they're extra power for the CPU I

would have to consult the manual to find

that out but I kind of you know I kind

of lean towards probably for graphics

just because there isn't anything else

for that and there are plenty old power

connectors for the CPU as we are about

to see so as we go up this edge I'm

pulling out are you two data cable for

our obtained drive down there we've got

two fan connectors for these beefy boys

that are on this very custom ASA tech

cooler we'll dig into that a little bit

when we remove it this is gonna be a

much longer stream than I expected so

David how's your back you good okay

well get buckled in because this is

gonna be quite a thing I didn't realize

I was going to be installing a water

cooler on top of doing a board swap so

now here we're pulling out another power

connector and note this to 24-pin power

connectors like what apparently this is

optional because it was clearly working

without it but you can plug two power

supplies directly into this motherboard

like what also here we're gonna go ahead

and keep moving across the top here yeah

my friends that is not two but four

eight pin CPU power connectors all the

way up at the top of the board on the

left and on the right here now there's

only two installed right now so I guess

the other two are optional if you're not

doing like sub-zero overclocking or

whatever else but again it gives you

some idea of what they expect might

these poor these poor boards and CPUs

might get put through we're not gonna be

doing anything that nuts though we will

leave the extreme overclocking challenge

between like gamers Nexus and

and J's two cents I think so I have a

slight problem Anthony can you I fix it

kit me at some point here all right yeah

some point in the relatively near future

because I don't have the Torx bit but if

you could get in mind I know for sure my

kit has all the pieces it's in my office

on the left of my bench table thank you

so yeah I need these I need to undo

these Torx screws here I'm pretty sure

the iFixit kid has the right bid for it

and then I also just need to find where

the crap the screws are on this very

strange motherboard form factor because

I won't be able to pull the board out

without undoing them oh I guess this I

can take a moment to talk about the the

cooler so I recognize this this is

clearly a okay it's labeled this is

clearly an ace attack AIO water cooler

but it's unlike any one that I've seen

before something a lot of people don't

know is that while ace attack does

provide coolers for consumer brands that

you've heard of like the Corsair for

example they also do a ton of OEM work

in the server space even going as far as

to provide cooling solutions for large

data centers so it's not surprising

necessarily to me to see a custom

solution from ASA tech it's just that

this one is pretty darn weird so the

first thing I noticed was that this

block so this this core block and pump

design was clearly not designed for such

an immense CPU like it obviously doesn't

cover it so there were going to be cores

of this processor that were basically

not covered by cooling water obviously

that would be a problem so what they've

done here is as like an intermediary

step yeah I think these ones first as

like an intermediary layer they've gone

and they've thrown this

thick copper plate because even though a

CPU does have an IHS an integrated heat

spreader that is designed to spread out

the heat from the die apparently that

was not considered enough and they

needed this nice thick piece of copper

to act as kind of like a heat buffer so

that it could help to absorb and spread

out all the heat that's coming off the

CPU it also clearly didn't work as well

as they were hoping because they went

included that that EK solution in the

box so here we can get a look at a

couple of things so one is the carrier

plate like the carrier I don't know sled

you might call it you gonna you're gonna

come off o the Tim breaker oh cool it's

right here there's a little icon there

yep perfect

you're supposed to pry up on it there

that's neat okay so we get a look at

this carrier thing here can you just

come off please there it is okay

just gonna release that clip and that

one okay so that's designed to hold the

CPU while you install it so you don't

accidentally hung up it's not a bloody

bit pin in this socket well it doesn't

matter cuz I'm gonna be putting that

Asus board in anyway

wow there's more than one got to be

kidding me you can really see it from oh

you can really see it from this angle

down here there's a vent pin there and

there's like four of them here can you

see them at all see the one can you see

those four you can really see it from my

angle if we swap spots yeah you see that

okay you guys we were live-streaming

this I did nothing I swear I did nothing

all right

yeah that's clearly a bad socket anyway

um so a couple other things we can look

at we can see the sheer magnitude of

this copper plate that they're using to

spread that heat out that's pretty

impressive and then we also get a look

at the CPU itself so back when Intel was

demoing this word on the street was that

they were just using kind of tuned Zeon

Zeon

81 76 is or 81 80s which are 28 cores

fit in the socket and they were just

manually changing them to have an

unlocked multiplier well now we get a

specialized chip so I actually don't

remember all of the exact speeds and

feeds off the top of my head so I'm

totally gonna cheat and look at my phone

but basically this is the Xeon wws for

workstation 31 75 X and I'm going to so

let's see it's there 14 nanometer + +

process 28 course 56 threads so it does

have hyper threading text 1 gigahertz

base and it boosts up to 4 point 3

gigahertz 3.0 3.8 actually with all

cores active although that's not with

avx2

workloads it's got a total of 38 and a

half Meg's of level 3 cache 28 Meg's and

level 2 cache ridiculous and the TDP is

255 watts and of course we can expect

that to go much higher with overclocking

so we're gonna go ahead we're gonna put

this aside for now we're definitely not

going to drop it I did send an email

asking nicely for a replacement for my

Xeon 8180 that I dropped and nobody has

replied to me so it looks like there's a

good chance I'm either gonna have to use

engineering samples or pony up and buy

one which sucks because that's even more

expensive than this one

anyway that's CPUs not really gonna

stand out that much to anyone who's been

watching the the saga that has been six

workstations one CPU the thing that's

really special about it is just that

it's overclockable alright go ahead and

pull this board out now that gives us a

really good feel for the scale of this

thing one thing I really will say that I

like about gigabyte solution here is

that they've gone ahead and they've

implemented the full 7 PCI Express slots

instead of just four with double spacing

like a soos is done on their board but

unfortunately like I have no idea if I

were to go and reinstall this CPU if

this thing would even work so if I did

have any projects in mind that required

a bunch of PCI Express slots then I

might not even be able to do them

hmm that's a little frustrating all

right let's go almost said the wrong one

now let's turn our attention to this

cooler I'm gonna go ahead and pull it

out but so the first thing that stood

out was that they had to use this copper

plate to increase the effective size of

it just to be able to cool a cpu of that

that magnitude the second thing was the

fans that they're using on it so these

right here I actually can't tell the

brand but it looks like they're like

pana flows or deltas or something like

that you can tell just from oops you can

tell just from the plastics that they

use that these are designed to be high

rpm fans because something actually

again this is something a lot of people

might not realize something a lot of

people don't know is that the force on a

fan as it's spinning is actually

significant enough that even on a

lightweight desktop fan like one from

Noctua the the blades will actually

spread out and flatten in a significant

way while they are operating and that

can affect the tolerances of it so if

you're trying to let's say for example

like what happens with not to his latest

fan if you're trying to get the blades

really close to the outside of the hub

so you don't have that wasted air gap

there it can be really really difficult

and it also means that if you're

building a high performance high rpm fan

you have to account for that even more

because it's going to be spinning faster

which is going to exacerbate the problem

then the third thing I noticed about it

right so I'm saying these are high

performance fins then the third thing I

noticed about it oh boy

ah deaf Clippers Anthony by any chance

Clippers are an oh I have a knife it's

okay I'll just use my knife where'd my

knife go David do you know where the

knife is are you gesturing to it or are

you just stabilizing yourself are you

just in alright now you know okay well I

will grab another knife yay now there's

a missing knife around here somewhere

that's always that's always good

alright let's just free this

yeah okay the third thing I noticed is

that on top of this being a thicker than

standard radiator typical desktop

cooling solutions are going to be the

slim style radiators what we used to

call them I guess I'm not on top of

being thicker this is an extremely high

thin count radiator so what a higher fin

count does is so you've got your copper

tubes that allow the water to go from

here we go from the inlet all the way

down so half of this is hot water coming

down and the other half is cool water

going up and obviously there's no clear

division between the hot and the cool

water and actually it's all like mostly

the same temperature at the rate that

water moves in a loop like this but

basically it just means that half of

these tubes are carrying this water down

and half of them are carrying them up to

the outlet up here so what the fin count

means is that these usually aluminum

fins but these ones are they copper or

lumen I saw one that was scratched Wow

these are copper fins this is a really

nice radiator this is like ball

inexpensive so you typically have brass

in the tubes and tanks and then aluminum

in the fins but you can see right here

that copper color these are copper fins

anyway so you can either have these

double triangles like they've done here

or you can just have single ones and

when you have the less dense arrangement

of fins it's more optimized for lower

rpm lower static pressure fans so you go

and you put low performance fans on that

it'll actually do better than if you put

those fans on a thick one like this and

similarly if you take a high fin count

one like this one and put it with those

low performance fans it'll it'll

suffocate it won't be able to push the

air through so you need to pair high

density - Count's radiators with high

performance fans and then vice versa in

order to get the best experience either

way so yeah this is a this is a crazy

friggin water cooler and again they

clearly didn't think it was enough all

right

so we've gone as far as tearing this

whole thing down I guess now it's

to build it back up and then maybe like

I don't know fire it up

run some run some Cinebench do like a

blender chest or like whatever it is you

guys want I mean it's it's your live

stream oh I'm so sorry there we go

alright I gotta clear a little bit of

space here the the amount of room that a

build like this takes up is

significantly more than I'm used to

because like the mother the components

the components are also large so this

right here is our ROG Dominus extreme

this has not been tested yet

which is exactly what I think Intel was

probably trying to avoid when they sent

us a completed system rather than having

us build it ourselves but you know

theoretically it should be fine and wow

that's that's fancy it comes with this

nice little like foam you know test

bench station effectively underneath it

so I can go ahead and put that on top of

the box

it's friggin heavy feature-wise it's

very similar to the other one so you got

you to 24 pins you've got is that even

more yeah you've got even more CPU power

connectors to eight pin EPS and then on

each side and then an additional 6 pin

PCI Express although it could be that

again those are for the graphics lot

somehow no I don't think so because

they've got an easy plug down here

they've got an additional 6 pin down

here that I believe is probably gonna be

for these guys yeah your USB 3 yeah you

know what who cares let's go ahead and

get this thing built ah

there's nowhere to put anything it's

fine

accessories wise nothing is labeled

thank you Asus I mean this whole

platform is not really intended for

consumers though so I can kind of

understand why the documentation is a

little bit lacking in fact I don't even

see a manual in here because it's going

to be system integrators that are going

to be the ones who can who even can get

access to this Hardware no this does

appear to be a manual manual ventia

stickers not what I'm looking for what I

really want is the i/o shield but you

know that's okay don't label anything

you guys just have clean black boxes you

know it's fine I got all the time in the

world stuff and live streaming

anything wait why is this not going you

know what it doesn't matter where is my

i/o shield what even are these what is

this wait no what Wow

okay so one of the things that a sous

does on some of their high-end boards is

they've got an extra slot on them I

didn't even notice this they've got an

extra slot that kind of looks like

another memory slot so you got your your

six channels so six slots total on

either side three channels on either

side and then you've got these

additional ones both on the right and

the left called dim dot too so they look

like a memory slot but they're not

they're actually just running standard

PCI Express and then it's just using a

proprietary connector here and you're

supposed to install these puppies so

these are single dim dot two to dual m

dot two adapters and these are fancy

ones now so you guys you can see the

mounting hardware down here that support

still just to 2 m dot two drives but

with like massive heat sinks on them and

I go ahead they may include a couple of

those for you so that's that's a nice

touch thank you you guys oh wow had a

panic moment there I thought for a

second one of them was using a square

ilm and one of them was using a narrow

island but they're both using narrow

aisle m so on on intel server platforms

there's actually two different types of

like cooler mount configurations that

are available

I don't see an IO shield in here is

there no i/o shield

bloody hell yeah it's integrated on the

bright side I swear I saw it I swear I

saw it before you said it please believe

me do you believe me Anthony I don't

think he believes me that's fine I don't

remember what I was talking about

anymore dang it that's fine let's go

ahead and get this thing installed so uh

come on down we can go ahead and remove

our oh right square versus narrow aisle

M so you can either have it square for

boards that have more space or there's a

narrow version like this a rectangular

version if everything's all full of DIMM

slots and dim dot two slots and fan

headers and all the kinds of crazy

nonsense like

so let's go ahead and grab our CPU

carrier let's see if I can remember

which way it goes ah I don't have to

wonderful it's got a label on it I do

love it when things work out but which

way does it go trying to remember huh

yep

hopefully this way seems like this way

yeah sure no that doesn't seem to be

working very well at all does it give me

a sec quite there's a lot of there's a

lot of play there it doesn't go in this

way does it don't can't cuz this has to

go up through the cooler okay

thinking no this is embarrassing I

really wish I'd paid it so I've never

actually used these you don't

technically have to Wow should I just

not I've never used these when I've done

LGA 36:47 installs before because none

of the engineering sample boards that I

got had them included and the CPUs

didn't come with them at least at that

time anyway

so I always just plunked the CPU into

the socket and then installed my cooler

on top and I guess that's going to be

the approach we're taking because I

can't figure out how to put it on right

now so I just chuck it on there after

the fact sure why not

there now it's on heck yeah actual

sure yeah yeah why not

now obviously it's not gonna hold it in

very well like this actually it does

seem to be a link it in oh uh not very

well you know what so we're gonna go

ahead and we're gonna put our CPU cooler

on now so this is one of UK's Fenix kits

which I haven't actually personally

installed before but it couldn't be that

complicated @ck they usually have pretty

good mounting hardware like I said this

is sending up being a much longer screen

than I thought but hopefully you guys

are into it how many people are watching

right now Anthony just okay so

apparently people do care about this

people care that I didn't clean off the

thermal compound so I'm gonna let you

guys in on a little secret for the best

possible results you should definitely

do that but we're talking like a degree

honestly I have actually tested it I

never did a video about it called can

you reuse thermal compound because I

didn't want to deal with all the

complaints about it because even if the

results were what they were people were

still gonna hate it but actually no I do

not intend to bother replacing thermal

compound it will spread out again when I

put this new block on it I'm very very

sorry if it overheats you guys get to

tell me that you told me so okay deal

okay deal so our Hardware here oh boy I

get to assemble my own mounting hardware

for the CPU block that should be fine so

once again we are looking at a very

beefy radiator but this one's a little

bit different so in order to avoid

patent disputes with folks like ASA tech

ek has gone integrated the pump over

here I believe that's the pump either

that or that I don't know

doesn't really matter and then you can

see they've gone with a slightly

different approach to the radiator this

is still copper but it's using still

dents but just these use instead of the

double like kind of triangle

configuration please remove before use

let's do that before we forget a once

once I have done that in my entire

career both just as a PC tech and as a

youtuber never live it down the worst

part was that I had given Alex a really

hard time about it like a couple months

prior and then I went and did it yeah

actually that really doesn't look like

enough thermal compound was left behind

shoot okay I will have to reapply my

thermal compound do we have any paper

towel handy by any chance there's

usually someone said is there not wow

they did a really good job of cleaning

up on Monday do you mind Anthony Anthony

do you mind Anthony grabbing something I

know I've got thermal paste there I'll

just use the included stuff doesn't

really matter all right in the meantime

I can go ahead and I can mount this

radiator so I'm going to need different

screws because you can see they've got

it configured for exhaust out the front

of the case actually that's the same way

the other one was configured but it's

the fans on the case side instead of the

rat on the case side and they use

different types of screws so I'm gonna

go ahead and just kind of pop this in

here and then go look for whatever it is

that they intend for me to use Oh anyone

might want to come around this side

David because this is where most of the

action is gonna be for a little bit here

alright okay uh oh uh Anthony oh you're

back good axle wait nope never mind they

did include some fan screws so this

looks like it's like an intel care

package as opposed to something that

just arrived out of the box from UK

because they've got exactly just the fan

screws that I need and there's no

standard radiator mounting screws as far

as I can tell

thank you sir oh no problem we got this

alright let's go ahead and put those

there I'm not gonna put all 12 in I'm

sorry you guys but I will put in six

that will be our little compromise oh

man these front panel cables are getting

in my way a little bit here hopefully I

can squish them enough I can get this

rad in that is really tight that is a

really tight fit I mean I would expect

that everything about building a system

like this is going to be sort of not for

the average builder like not for the

novice and I do kind of understand the

rationale behind making this pretty much

a system integrators only part with that

said I mean you know it's nice to be

given the choice as a consumer as well

do you want to check Anthony has this

processor showed up on like new area

Gramma's on yet I'm just kind of curious

oh man

so these gaps are a little bit some of

them anyway

the tolerances are not very good on this

case I think either that or it was

stretched before so the gaps on this

side are a little bit wider than these

ones and the heads of these screws are

really small for a fan screw so it's

actually slipping through on the right

hand side there but it's not going to

impede us I don't think new egg for

three grand hey not available okay so

there you go it's anywhere from 1,800 to

three good I sincerely doubt you'll get

it for 1,800 oh the Dominus that the

motherboard the motherboard is two grand

what Wow

well that's a new one I mean even like

the old SR 2 and like skull trail boards

and stuff we're only in the you know

sort of $600 range if I recall correctly

like six seven

eight wow that's a new that's a new hi

mark I think at least that I'm aware of

alright so that's in there well enough

I'm not I'm not concerned about that

coming off oh I am a little concerned

about just sort of like generally

breaking this as I continue to build it

here because I'm trying to go fast to be

respectful of your guys's time and also

trying to do it somewhat properly so you

guys don't yell at me all right we will

clean the thermal compound I have backed

down on that one I always do a dry pass

first you actually can remove a lot more

of it that way and then you're just left

with the remnants

who's asking Riley wants to know how

much longer oh he has to shoot teklynx

doesn't he ha ha Wow how about that

there Riley ah ah okay that's good ah

let's go ahead and install this

motherboard then I guess and hope that

the CPU doesn't fall out of the socket

while we do that

wouldn't that be embarrassing breaking

another until 28 core yeah that's really

not holding that in there at all

hmm well I might have made my life a

little bit more difficult but it

wouldn't be the first time it's

certainly not the last let's go ahead

and just lay the keys down Scott lay the

case down huh what Oh must be Friday I

need to lie down all right oops

so I'm sorry David but you're not gonna

be able to see this very well I guess

unless do you have an angle there

there's an Apple box do you need an

Apple box I will have a box you ready

here we go

all right there's some movie magic for

you guys at home it's not close enough

dang it all right well you got this

thank you sir there was really nothing I

could do to help you okay so I actually

oh wow

this board is a little different we can

clear this clear this space that we need

so instead of being so long like the

other one with that with the ten slot

configuration a soos starts there PCI

Express slots right here it's only a

standard ATX length so what that means

is that these fans are in the way of our

cooler right now oh boy seems like

there's a bunch of room between the

headers here but something is stopping

me no it's this alright maybe it's that

these are pulled out too far right now

cuz yeah it's not the fans

it's these capacitors that are built

into these cables yeah this is not not

amazing what's happening right now this

is what we get this is what we get

I'm sure over I didn't tell they're just

like - this is why we sent you a

completed system this is literally

exactly the reason that we did that you

knew that you knew that we dared to be

different

oh my goodness I just can't even like I

just can't even get it it at all you

know what we're close to just that all

those cables I don't think we can do it

like we can do it I think I have to

liberate the cables first and then I'm

just gonna have to figure out how the

crap to get them over there oh boy um

how that's gonna be interesting thing is

so big it's just I'm wildy

what's under it

okay usb3 come on come on baby just get

in there you got it you could do it oh

okay

now after all that of course they

because the boards are different sizes

not all of the mounting holes line up so

there's no nothing to plug into here or

here yeah it's very funny Anthony very

funny so I have to take it back out all

the things you guys don't normally see

in the video right this is this is the

beauty this is the beauty of doing it

live beauty all right so let's have a

look-see shall we we've got one two

three four across the top you know what

two is enough we've got two more right

here and here

those ones do appear to line up but that

right there that was going to be a big

old problem for us so we had an extra

that was probably actually scratching on

the back of this back plate here that

was gonna be a real big problem we could

have well I mean it's got a back plate

so maybe not as big of a problem so it

would have flexed the board a little bit

but it probably would have been okay but

if you don't have a back plate on the

back of your motherboard then what you

can do in a situation like that is you

can end up actually scratching the back

of your board breaking traces and

effectively

well destroying it so we don't want any

of that going on guys don't let me

forget that I put this bit here I will

need that let's go ahead and pull that

standoff out first though okay so we've

got this guy and then this guy and then

this guy yep that should line up just

nicely then we've got this guy

which does look like it is lined up

perfectly fine we've got this grommet to

fix okay that's just my OCD getting the

better of me this doesn't actually

matter we don't actually have to do this

oh now I can't stop okay I have to do

this oh wow it's worse than before just

please go oh please just go in entering

panic mode in five four three two one

panic mode averted okay okay then we

also need this one so we can go ahead

and pop one in there that's the one we

took out and then this guy is not doing

anything so might as well move it up

sorry you guys can't really see what I'm

doing right now this one it's over here

oh it's a really awkward angle to work

at but feel don't feel bad for me feel

bad for David he's working harder than I

am right now by a long shot all right

here we go for those of you don't know

David is the camera guy who's shooting

right now anthony is working the least

hard out of all of us he just asked us

like fetch stuff occasionally and drink

Pepsi Diet Pepsi I'm sure see I know his

drink preferences he's very particular

okay so the board's in and everything

that I was expecting to have a standoff

in it does so we're gonna call that good

enough and we're gonna go ahead and

screw it in let's try not to drop any of

these screws oh I've already got one

loaded up here oh wow this board

supports everything it's even got a oh

wait I thought that said Thunderbolt

header does it have a Thunderbolt header

I'd be pretty impressed if it did yeah

it does God support for Thunderbolt got

all

all the things to you dot twos on this

puppy you got eight say two slots you

got those ridiculous for m dot tubes

what's interesting though is that even

with the size of this thing

it doesn't have a single m dot to in

like a standard configuration just lying

flat on the board so you have to use

those dim dot two cards interesting now

what's also interesting is that I appear

to be short one screw hmm I find that to

be a little bit concerning so I can

actually check why I'm sure to screw

fairly easily so two across the top to

down the middle one more here and four

across the bottom so that should be nine

and I'm just going to check from the

back one two three are you okay

three four yeah five six seven

this one eight nine yeah okay that's

right why do I have an extra screw oh ha

ha ha ah the screws for the graphics

card okay let's just carry on then shall

we

what's the chat figure it out Anthony

when I'm cringing when I picked up the

case oh right the CPUs not in yet

okay well you coulda told me that thanks

Anthony

I know you've always got my back well

you're stabbing me in the face Oh the

CPU wasn't what sorry

oh yeah no he just told me I forgot okay

this is the worst peel of all time came

off in three pieces

terrible terrible no one by this board

eighteen hundred dollars worst peel ever

just kidding that's not that's not why

anyone cares about this board okay so

now we've got new problems I have

basically no way to access the 8 pin

connectors over there but first we're

gonna we're gonna deal with this once

and for all we've got to assemble the

mounting for the block I'm just gonna

have to figure out exactly how to do

that bunch of like wow you know when

your cooler comes with not one not two

not three but four allen wrenches you're

in for a super duper good time

I think someone's at the door oh boy

you've got Stoppers you've got what even

the crap are we looking at here okay ow

instructions are there instructions I

really

alright well you saw it folks this was

it this was the point where this stream

went completely off the rails okay

hopefully we have all those thumb screws

and hopefully these are the instruct

note these are the instructions for the

ASA tech cooler come back I really

really really need that I need that to

not be gone does this not have nope okay

well it's not clear exactly how this

goes together but I like to think of

myself as a reasonably clever so I'm

sure I will figure it out basically

we've got four basically we've got four

of these and they need to go through

these holes and hold this to that sure

I'd love to know where the instructions

are stuck inside the packing of the box

I don't see them I don't think that are

they referring to this that's just a

protector for the oh thank you chat

beautiful okay how are we doing here oh

boy

these might just be the standard

instructions for the standard kit that

doesn't go on LGA 3647 yeah I think this

is just like how to fill your loop holy

crap this isn't filled of course not

oh boy oh boy and no there are no

instructions for LGA 36:47 stop stop

just go there alright so there are a few

things I know one that the threading is

slightly different between the corner

screw standoffs and the ones down the

sides so I just need to figure out which

one's of these are which and then I

can't go wrong are they different

they're not different

you know what we're gonna Yolo it we're

gonna put with thermal compound here we

go oh wow there's nothing on the side HS

at all not even Intel confidential

that's really unusual okay hopefully

this is enough goop these are really big

CPUs and require a lot of goop so we're

just gonna put that on there a little

like that and we are just going to screw

these on because

that's all we really have to go on at

this point so here's an allen key

actually I'm doing this out of order it

should be this one first I do have the

prompter remote you can you'll have to

give me one second here though okay you

know normally I scream because it's fun

but this is just stressful this must be

just as stressful for you guys to watch

as it is for me to do to so I don't know

if anyone's having a good time right now

ah here you go

17,000 people at 17,000 people can be

wrong I've actually seen much larger

numbers of people be wrong in the past

talk quieter are you guys shooting on

the tech link set oh okay

so we're just gonna be shooting two

things simultaneously see when you said

you'd figure it out I just I kind of

assumed you'd figure out something

different like shooting over in the

lounge or something but that's okay

we're just we're doing tech linked right

over there on the other side of that

wall and we're doing this live stream

right here on this side of this wall

yeah so that'll be tonight's episode

okay so I've put in the two screws on

the corners and now I'm putting in the

ones on the sides so the first two are

just to keep the block kind of on the

socket and these two actually wrench the

CPU down into the the pins into the LGA

actually is technically the LGA the

thing on the bottom of the CPU or on the

motherboard I think it's the motherboard

so I think we're going into the LGA land

grid array I'm sorry David this ended up

being a much much bigger project than I

anticipated that's on me

that's on me not on you

the good news is that as far as I can

tell this is working it's working and

it's what we expected oh right what we

don't know is if this is actually full

of water or not oh boy

so do they ship this empty or filled oh

man now I kind of wish I'd used the ASA

Tech one again instead of switching to

this I mean we're not gonna be

overclocking it right now anyway why did

I care why did I build it overkill like

a question I've asked myself many times

I don't know oh man

okay do you happen to know if the

Phoenix comes prefilled and if you like

drain it then expand it Anthony let's

find out I doubt it I really doubt it

okay here we go

all in one expendable blah blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah okay blah blah

oh right so I think it is supposed to

come prefilled but it's also supposed to

come with quick disconnects this is just

a completely different product manual so

removing the expansion balloon yeah ours

doesn't have an expansion balloon I have

no idea if it's full yeah sort of I mean

it's the Phoenix in the sense that it's

got the same radiator and pump combo as

the Phoenix but it's a different block

it doesn't come with the GPU expansion

module like it's only sorta a Phoenix I

mean it doesn't really okay so why do

they include these if not to fill it or

something

and see they've got these extra Stoppers

- what are they for I don't know

yeah okay you're right worst-case

scenario we start pumping air and we

destroy the pump okay that is a

worst-case scenario and then we have to

install the ASA tech cooler back on but

that's okay I think these people are

enjoying the process hopefully okay okay

so let's go ahead and plug our 24-pin

power in that we can access whoo this is

the primary boom then we can loosen up

our what is this that's you sp3 okay so

actually that we can do as well we're

getting all the easy stuff out of the

way right now that goes right about come

on baby just oh just go in easily please

thank you that goes right about there

thank you then we can loosen our UDOT to

a little bit here see if we can liberate

that a bit no we cannot that's fine now

I can tip it up right cool

yes we can liberate this a bit but we

will need to cut some zip ties I found

my other knife hey this is looking up a

little ah I could really use clippers

right now that would be a lot better

there we go no I'm good huh no not yet

remember do as I say not as I do

and I'm saying don't do that all right

down it goes go ahead and plug in our

UDOT - boom we are making real progress

now here's our front panel audio

no that's USB and that doesn't happen to

line up with any USB header on this

board but that's fine we don't really

need USB anyway um no I just need I just

need the power switch so they use a

different pen out so I'm just gonna take

this tape that was so helpfully applied

to this to make it easy to install I'm

gonna remove it and we're gonna go ahead

and plug our power switch in right about

you know gorgeous front oh you know what

what the heck let's do it

the only live one time all right now we

need to solve a real problem here at the

back are my two 8-pin connectors

obviously there is no way whatsoever to

get those through the back of this it is

completely closed up with this board

they're also cable managing yes Anthony

I take it back I would like Clippers I

can't keep I can't keep doing that

I will cut myself eventually uh yeah

yeah for the views no no no I would

rather not cut myself today

ah okay you know what we also need some

eight pin extensions yes that's our

solution cable mod to the rescue so

David how much can you follow me

this is your this is your umbilical cord

isn't it that's it that's it that's all

okay well maybe we can put yourself over

here and then I'll wave to you from over

where the cable stuff is I think you can

take the power with you actually you

know what you stay there you stir nope

okay okay so I'm going over there I'm

going over the cable and cable and can

you see me I'm going to cable and I need

some eight pin extensions uh-oh I could

have sent Anthony actually that might

have been smart well you know what I'm

gonna grab the box that I think contains

eight pin extensions and then if it

doesn't then you can bail us out Anthony

no this is so ridiculous

can you get through here David oh yeah

like a boss do you need help can I give

you a hand getting up okay the good news

is this is exactly what we needed

wait no this is not exactly what we

needed these are just modular cables I

thought these had female ends ah okay

you know what I'm just I'm taking this

project to the floor there's not enough

space up there anymore okay Anthony my

hopes are my hopes are fading

oh there's one wait no is this

pci-express plenty hell I think this is

PCI Express Anthony you might need to

look for a pin extensions you could try

one of the other bins of cable Maude

stuff or you could try I don't have time

to wait for an order oh you could

you could try the specialty PC power bin

as well yeah that's what led me to

believe there might be some tensions in

here everything here come on

oh there's one yes yes wait I have to

Anthony yes victory is mine

I think see the thing that I don't know

is whether this Asus board also allows

me to just plug in to eight pin

connectors like the gigabyte one and

what I also don't know is where they

would go so we are going to have to

either consult the manual or trial and

error this this this sucker first though

we need to remove these because we are

clearly not cable managing them up the

back anymore there we go then we are

just gonna run them in the messiest way

possible right up over top of the CPU

wait you know what no we can do a little

better than that we're gonna go up right

here do you see it can you see me can

you see yeah okay see the cable heck

yeah

alright so it's coming out right up here

Oh ow

okay wonderful I don't know whether to

laugh or cry this was not what I

intended to do all of this I just

thought you know what simple motherboard

swap they'll be the same size and shape

that's why we have standards standards

yeah I'm sure a soos anyone anyone who's

been sort of following this platform a

little more carefully than me it's

probably just like laughing at me this

whole time and I don't know if Intel's

laughing I think Intel's crying okay I

just need I just need this to go in

there

wait is this one piece of bloody hell

this one's PCI Express Anthony you might

need to know

wait how the heck am I even gonna plug

these in anyway

I forgot about the real challenge the

real challenge is that these fans are in

the way I can't even access that the

sockets anyway ok so this one is gonna

go over there somehow we hope oh could I

do it which one I think I can I think I

can plug it in motherboard box

motherboard box where'd it go here

wait did it come with a manual yes it

did it did okay note the weight of the

board in there doesn't uh doesn't fall

open anymore

okay the manual was in here home stretch

now home stretch baby we've got this I

can plug this thing in I will be so

happy

sorry about that all right bla bla bla

bla bla bla bla bla bla installation

tools and components yeah like your case

is gonna look like that say the optical

disc drive optional you bet it is

alright here are the labels so ATX power

connectors for 8 pin a1 2 b1 2 a 3 B 3

what the crap is this labeling ok please

tell me which ones are optional

please just have it laid out this is the

one you need this is the one you don't

need come on hit me with that useful

information here we go ok so there's a 1

there's a 1 2 a 3 that appear to go from

left to right out that way and then

there's B 1 2 B 3 which go right to left

out that way so for our fully configured

system do not forget to connect the 8

pin power plugs otherwise the system

will not boot it doesn't say which this

motherboard supports up to 2 power

supplies so great with the proper and

push down firmly until the nope it

doesn't say so here's what we're gonna

try we're gonna try a 1 and B 1 and see

if that's enough

so I think I can put this in without

taking out that pan

there's a little thing in my way they'll

get out little thing oh it's a fan

connector I need a spudger oops I

already took this bed earlier and I

didn't put it back so this is my second

spider

I'm sorry Riley okay yeah then okay so

one VIN and this one might just be long

enough to make it without an extension

now the problem is that these don't lock

together on this particular power supply

which is a real hassle for me because it

means I have to both hold them together

and plug them in at the same time all in

a gap that I can't really reach you know

what forget it oh hey Riley are you done

did you just ASMR the whole episode nice

these are this grill is too wide to put

a fan on top of it okay all right with

this fan out of the way I'll be able to

plug in a second eight pin power

connector here oh Anthony did you ever

go get a 20 atti oh it's fine to turn

that off I'm done with that bench yeah

if you don't mind we're we're pretty

close to graphics card install now oh I

can I can smell it I can smell it we're

close just burned past Oh

to taste thanks Dave I'm sorry David

is it good cuz I can't stop and think

about whether it's interesting or not

I'm just trying to build the computer

the computer I should have never taken

apart you know what's hilarious is I'm

planning another livestream where I put

another thing that I should never have

taken apart back together I'm gonna put

that red camera back together and I'm

gonna do it live that's the plan I'm

gonna try anyway I mean I think people

kind of get a kick out of watching me

struggle anyway so if nothing else the

people will be entertained are you not

entertained

I just like I can't get in there can you

see how tight this is too tight to fit a

camera in to see what I'm doing that's

for sure just go okay let's try one at a

time because I can't get my fingers in

there so I just have to maneuver it

using the cable got one halfway in so if

anyone from EVGA is watching that is why

you need the two halves of your a pin if

you're gonna have a four plus four

that's why you need them to lock

together because sometimes you're

building under sub optimal circumstances

and this is nothing if not suboptimal

everything that's going on right now oh

oh thank you sir that's beautiful

Oh still warm all right ah let's just

throw that back on there I guess we're

making real progress now my friends I

really I really you know what I don't

want it I don't want to ruin this pump

Anthony can you check Intel's email and

see if they said if that thing is

prefilled or not thank you it would be

tremendous to know before I turn it on

because we're actually getting

dangerously close to that pardon the

expression all right

ah screwdriver let's go ahead and

install our graphics card in the top

slot here so that's interesting we also

ended up with somehow we're one screw

short instead of ones through extra now

so I only have one screw to put in the

graphics card when I had to when I took

this thing apart I don't know what's a

bigger concern the screws left over or

not enough let me know let me know in

the chat what's worse all right

the peel tab fell off okay hey soos you

guys got to step up your peel game here

this is the worst worst motherboard

peeling experience I've had in quite

some time

all right so that's in it's like barely

supported by this thing go ahead and

screw it in also I think we're gonna oh

yeah we're gonna need the PCI Express

power connectors that used to be plugged

into that gigabyte board just for this

graphics card it needs to eight pins and

a single six pin and they're gorgeous

folks it's beautiful okay what was I

thinking

I don't know sometimes okay Ram let's

just walk this over here now this is yet

another thing that can go wrong today

because this Ram is validated for the

CPU clearly and that is a big factor

these days because the integrated memory

controller is well it's integrated it's

built right into the CPU but you can

still get weird compatibility issues

from board to board let's find out what

we're dealing with here so this is

samsung eight gig 2666 so eight gigs

times six would be what 48 gigs

alright let's go ahead and pop these

tabs ooh that graphics card is still

very toasty so it was running 8k video

playback acceleration like GPU

acceleration and stuff upstairs that's

gonna be a video coming pretty soon

well actually it's funny that it might

not be that soon so that'll give you

guys some idea what our video cue looks

like cuz I shot that like two hours ago

here we go

they say nothing it's optional for

people who want to overclock

well I'm certainly glad I put it in then

because I'll definitely be overclocking

on this stream just kidding I will not

be I'm gonna be happy enough if this

whole thing boots at all and if it

doesn't post I really don't think I can

stick around long enough to troubleshoot

the whole thing because I have to catch

a plane later today I am going to a

wedding so good luck everybody

here we go that's it it's done I will I

will try a couple things so I will at

least try more 8 pin connectors to see

if that's the problem oh I need a power

cable yes here it is and that is one oh

you can like hear it sounds like

knuckles cracking I will need a power

cable here it is that's fine

I will need a portable nuclear generator

no just kidding the outlets should be

fine we're only running at stock speed

with a single graphics card but this

thing could be loaded up to draw more

power than you could provide with a

single outlet I am pretty sure I need

power for my monitor and then I will

also need some time to display cable ah

here we go there's one plugged in to the

monitor already oh man I am pretty

nervous you guys let's see if we get

lights do we have any any indicator

lights whatsoever on the board we do and

their RGB all right moment of truth yeah

there's like a display on here full

color displays things ridiculous okay

wait wait a minute

stop

ah actually let's find out if it posts

first but this thing's gonna overheat

really quickly because there's no power

plugged into the pump

I need this we can still find out if it

posts usually you have enough time oh

that actually might not be a terrible

sign it turned off yep

CPU blah blah blah blah okay

it stuck it BD for a while here remember

back to CPU okay that might not be a

great sign come on baby

code 79 VGA come on hey there it is okay

post let's turn it off quick okay

now we need to figure out where this

goes so I don't know

what the hell excuse me pardon my my

foul language because I didn't see

anything on the top of the radiator unit

that looked like a plug I mean the good

news is hey I only put in six of the

screws that's what I call planning ahead

it's not about truth it's about branding

you know planning ahead oh can I just

rip this off because they go through no

these two are stuck pretty good so show

me the power cords so one of these looks

like an RPM sense and one of them looks

like power but where do they go my plug

oh ha I don't even notice this tripod Oh

neat

so there's power and then here's

tachometer cool so all the fans are

actually powered off this single thing -

that's actually that's pretty elegant

good job UK that's smart use of the

space that otherwise just would have

been pointless and tank space actually I

guess we can just leave this like this

because you only do live once and also

because that way if we have to fill this

loop we will already have access to it

oh yeah I could also just check if it's

filled

good thinking Anthony yeah we can just

check if it's filled fix it to the

rescue actually I'm not going to use my

fix-it kit for that

okay we're almost there David

almost excellent you know what screw it

haha sweet sound of pumping and my weak

justification for this fan hanging here

is that we need some cooling for the

memory yeah hell there was an old

product called the Anne techspot cool

that was basically this it screwed into

like a motherboard standoff and then it

just had this like like our kind of

articulating arm thing that you could

use to just kind of position it wherever

now hold on just a minute here 49 gigs

of ram that doesn't seem right wait yes

it does 48 okay yeah okay cool detect

the devices you two until 480 gig

obtained by blah blah blah CPU fan speed

error that's fine we weren't oh can I

get a keyboard and mouse by any chance

no no I said can I get one

still no no okay

please Thank You Anthony

so this is fantastic everything actually

somehow miraculously appears to be

working and this is why I never learned

okay

neat

so all we need is a keyboard and mouse

oh I can plug in networking now as well

I wonder if this thing has ten gig

networking because you never know when

you get into high-end products either

they include everything you could ever

want or need or they include nothing

because they assume you have enough

money to buy whatever else it is you

could possibly want to need go either

way

oh I guess I could look at the box while

Anthony's over there that would answer

my question well that stuff's gonna fall

out so I'll do it like this LAN a Kwanza

10 gig LAN yep regular Intel LAN so you

have something that works before you

install drivers you got your Wi-Fi 2x2

AC bluetooth b5 interesting so this is

an EE be born Wow

so a soos managed to make their board a

standard size Oh

Thank You Anthony I actually didn't look

back closely at it as I was going but

this is a standard sized board it's SSI

EB I mean it doesn't fit in a lot of

things but that's better than

proprietary like oh yeah I guess he'll

be needing to get a new case cool f1 to

run setup in that beautiful so let's

find out how they had it set so

multi-core enhancement was set to auto

so I guess that might be on would be my

guess oh wait no wait right Intel didn't

set this up this is a new board ok

ah so this doesn't really tell us

anything this just tell us say Seuss's

defaults well screw it let's just do it

then boom please

now usually it's not a problem to swap

from one board with the same chipset to

another board with the same chipset now

your Windows license might freak out a

little bit but where you're really run

into trouble is swapping between

dissimilar architectures so if you have

ok that's potentially not good oh you

know what's really funny is that's the

same error we got earlier so three more

cycles of this and it might work David

yeah it's the bug code and D is driver

so where you really run into trouble is

switching between dissimilar

architectures like trying to go from

this down to you know an Intel Sandy

Bridge or something or going from AMD to

Intel or vice versa that sort of thing

you can't even run into trouble to

though just like swapping out sort of

too many things at once like your

graphics card and your network card and

something else but I don't know I have I

actually have a fair bit of faith that

this is going to work out cut myself

that's how you can tell it's a good

build a little bit of sweat blood and

tears you can't get there without the

blood oh I think I'm supposed to file a

safety report for that what's it called

again incident yeah I don't remember if

you get cut it I'd yeah I did a little

bit although I think might not have been

cutting myself so much it's just my

hands are really dry cuz the air so dry

and it kind of split so hard to say what

I do know is that I am staring at a

Windows desktop how's the screen

brightness for you David I can go a

little brighter I can go a lot brighter

how's that it's not bright more you want

more I got more for you give us more is

that good cool so why don't we start

with a good old-fashioned Cinebench run

Wow

that's pretty fast kind of clock speed

are we running out here so all core

clock yeah it finished too fast and I

didn't get a chance one moment please

let's try that again I love how

tell tuned some little funny things

about this install like how big task

manager is out of the box so you can see

all the threads and like see how they're

correctly aligned here so we're at 2.8

gigahertz all cores there but it was

kind of jumping around a little bit

let's try that one more time 4,000

Cinebench score love it is it supposed

to be 3.3 is it 2.8 oh no I think 3.8 is

max boost and I'm not sure that oh this

is Navy export load okay so we do

already know that

AVX workloads are going to result in

lower clock speeds because they are a

bit more punishing so hey where do you

keep all the blender benchmark stuff

okay oh crap oh shoot are we not oh

that's okay the quanta no the ik want

chair drivers aren't pre-loaded because

this is a different board I just need to

switch Nick ports fine Oh what it what

is what is our easiest contact have to

say oh yeah tell him it's good I got it

oh well I don't know unless I plug them

into the wrong ones in which case he can

feel free to correct me input 1 ah ok

well that's not how he did it but it's

working so I'm sticking with it okay so

so what I actually haven't set up the

blender benchmark you need to install

the full blender right oh really oh I

did not know that

sweet cool let's grab it dang it where's

just the download link you guys please

this is what is going on it keeps

scrolling down instead of up that's

really weird yeah here we go oh I don't

know if I want a daily build Oh fine

okay I guess so

save sure why not no floatplane chats

mad they want emotes oh uh what else do

we want to do on this thing now that

we've got it up and running I mean we

could check temps right whoo yes we

could cool yes let's do that whole let

me just grab hardware monitor real quick

here are you coming down ah edge man to

be not install Chrome for me

they didn't it's like the first thing I

install just don't have to deal with it

Cinebench extreme right here it is this

is so this is four times the workload of

the regular Cinebench and is basically a

new benchmark that was this is like a

community thing right I think so so it's

a modified version so that instead of

seeing these really high core count

processors like the 32 core thread

Ripper or the 2990 like this one instead

of just seeing them just like rip

through it and then not really giving

them a chance to either sometimes get up

to full speed or like settle into their

their their sustained like power limit

this one is designed to take four times

longer so that it'll really separate the

the truly awesome from the just like

very super awesome

let's find out where that download went

all right that's a zip we can go ahead

and extract that so you can tell

everything we're doing today is very

fresh extract yeah / blender yep go for

it uh I sincerely doubt these are XMP

sticks yeah they're like ah guys that

Gary oh okay sure thing okay apparently

this board will do up to 4,000 megahertz

I really don't think this Ram is gonna

do that it's just some pretty bare-bones

RAM actually didn't check the ICS like

they might be really good ones or

something and very overclockable but I'm

not counting on anything right now why

are these taking so long to extract this

like a network bottleneck or something

cuz the CPU is barely being touched four

percent yeah yeah it's a ton of small

files so there you go oh yeah wow so

this one's only 80 Meg's but it's 2,300

files Wow

yep there's your problem got him

did they preload anything else on this

ooh candy crush well we can play candy

crush in the meantime it's time for a

let's play

did you know wrapped candy something

something oh man if I accept these terms

of service am I gonna regret it

oh I regret it walk into Facebook no I

just let's just let's just play yeah no

no I get how it works

wait is this still a tutorial is it just

telling me the answers this isn't real

gaming

yep I'm done okay why don't we try let's

do Cinebench extreme first alright you

can't have both of them open at the same

time I know I don't want to save my

score okay so here's the new one extreme

unofficial nod so this will take a

little longer I mean it's still chewing

through it pretty quick here let's

double-check those clock speeds so yeah

that's 2.8 gigahertz so this is most

assuredly an AV X maybe X 2 workload

neat oh right I downloaded hardware

monitor thank you worthless windows

search I guess I'll just go get it

myself then wait what the crap where did

it go

thank you edge I have no idea where my

download when it never started oh did I

have to click again all right all right

all right nope edges not to blame for

this Oh what just happened wow I'm not a

huge fan of this Mouse it's like the

clicks or hair triggers yeah for gamers

okay

next 32 X 64 here we go alright so I

want to see what kind of temps were

getting just at just at stock speed even

we're not even making it suffer too much

yet that's great that's great

there's so many there's so many here you

can barely like keep them all on the

stupid page okay so we're 20 26 to 28

degrees at idle sorry I can put that on

your side David there you go

and then no no no I got you I got you

fan okay now we're gonna run this again

we've got 1152 the first time around and

now let's fire up task manager okay go

ahead and pop that down there and so you

can see here everything is actually

perfectly under control in the low 40s

so yeah you like a Z on it doesn't draw

crazy amount of power or output a crazy

amount of heat when you're just running

it at stock speeds where you're gonna

get into trouble is when you overclock

it because it's not like you double the

voltage and you double the heat output

like it's an exponential curve so and

then you know Intel and AMD Mel Nvidia

all the chip guys they're always tuning

for that that that sweet spot of as much

performance as they can squeeze without

letting thermals on the power run away

with them well this chip the sort of

rumor is was never designed to be used

like this on an overclockable platform

so it's probably taken some work to even

get it this far

so we're at 11:58 in Cinebench extreme

and we can go ahead and fire up blender

now so here's 2.8 so what's the what's

the dealio with 2.8 you just fire it up

from the folder do you do you have to

run as administrator' or no more info

run anyway we're good ok so this will be

our this will be our last test here so

which one do you guys want to see

actually Anthony which one do you want

yeah I gooseberry how long would we

expect gooseberry to take on this puppy

that's weird it's complaining about my

graphics driver with at least OpenGL 3.3

support well I should have a driver oh

you know what it I might just need a

reboot because the oh wow no yeah the

whatever 1080 TI drivers are on here

apparently are old enough that they

didn't come with 2000 series drivers in

the package would be my guess cuz

normally you can just swap them around

and it'll just grab it okay so we're

gonna need to grab new and video drivers

I'm sorry guys I'm especially sorry to

David who has been holding the camera

like a champion for like an hour and a

half

how long have you been streaming okay an

hour 45 David you rock you can tell even

his big fist pound was exhausted I'm

sorry man you know we have to do it

though we have to see blender we have to

see it through I am amazed this worked

like I could not be yeah you've spent

enough time goofing around with weird

tech with me that's yeah you know that

this is like this is pretty good this is

pretty good for me oh man that's

fantastic uh I mean I don't know what

else can we throw on this thing in the

meantime you can throw I'll throw steam

on here although this really is not

designed for for gaming gaming use not

even with a twenty atti I mean it'll

it'll run games in the same sense that

you can run games on like a six thousand

dollar Quadro and a ten thousand dollars

Eon of course it'll run capes it's just

not a great value and so this is what we

figured about five grand all-in for the

CPU and motherboard

yep so in that neighborhood and then you

know Plus no one puts one graphics card

in the system like that so you're gonna

need a couple 2080 TI's that gets you

for another 2,500 bucks now you're at

$7,500

you're gonna need six channel memory so

you know yet does it Rick

we're good we're back cool

perfect okay so I'm just doing a clean

install right now so we're removing the

previous version of the drivers just so

we don't run into any weird issues and

then it's theoretically this means you

don't need to d2 you in practice its I

don't think quite perfect but it should

be okay

ddu is mostly for switching between

graphics hardware providers so Intel AMD

or Nvidia so weird that soon like very

soon Intel's gonna be a legitimate

gaming graphics hardware provider as

opposed to just onboard oh I

accidentally clicked the ad whoops I

still remember how outraged people were

when they first started integrating ads

in the driver installation process -

like why does my driver installer need

internet access now that's like the

least offensive thing like the least

intrusive part of PC gaming oh man all

right well I guess I might as well like

you know start cleaning up then okay I

guess

can't really go anywhere I needed a bit

for my screwdriver at some point oh yeah

I moved it way over here I don't

remember what I was planning to do with

it oh oh that's interesting right I

didn't even realize careful I didn't

even realize as I was putting it

together but no eks block here does not

use a Torx bit it actually ended up

using a hex bit so I did not need it

wait no it is Torx how did I put those

in how on earth did I put those in oh no

I did use a hex trip no their hex sorry

their hex okay in fairness to me they

both have six something's so all right

let's give it the know there's a Windows

Update No okay let's just see if we

don't need to reboot it's not funny

Anthony

see if we can get away with it

I think we got away with one here all

right all right all right cool blah blah

blah no whoops

no I don't put the donate button right

where the next button is very clever all

right I guess I can just can I just grab

it from the folder on the NASS Oh which

one is that though okay oh here it is

sample blender files okay which one do

you want to do

how long does gooseberry take though

yeah 15 minutes I don't know if we have

15 minutes what's the second most

demanding classroom couple minutes okay

let's do it

wait how do you want to open it bloody

hell

blender how do you think I want to open

a blender file oh I see yeah will that

work

hey did ha nice okay okay I can never

remember how to start it Anthony

sorry f12 is a shortcut dude dang it

go alright so here we go so this

evidently is whoa ouch so we only

managed to hit 2.4 gigahertz on this

particular load what our attempts like

still in the neighborhood of about 40

degrees what's interesting too is we're

not actually maxing out our CPU usage

here which I'm not sure if you guys can

see very well but we're only at about 76

77 % it's been kind of bouncing around a

little bit there so that is going to be

the I mean honestly at a big part of the

reason that we haven't seen desktop

processors and I've used the term

desktop a little bit loosely I mean

there's a desk and they're like chopped

you know obviously as a workstation

processor but we haven't seen desktop

processors with these kinds of core

counts ever before so there's been

technological limitations but I mean AMD

or Intel could have easily done a dual

socket solution or something like that

but even among the high end applications

that are used by creative professionals

or other professionals there are still

going to be limitations to how many

cores can be effectively utilized now I

don't know if this is just something

that requires some tuning on our part to

sort of figure out Anthony took over the

CPU reviews before we ever started using

blender regularly so I had like

literally haven't touched it in a couple

of years as a benchmark but stay tuned

because this is not the last you're

gonna see this this is just us having

some fun taking it out of the box but

Anthony's gonna be working on a full

review of this thing kind of trying to

figure out what is it what is its place

in the market should anybody actually

buy this thing and

he's gonna have a really interesting

point of comparison so our buddies over

at Puget Puget systems actually sent us

over what is it the ninety nine nine DXE

yeah so that's a really unique CPU that

you can only get through what's called

like an auction process so there's no

such thing as just calling up your rap

that tech data or cynics ring or micro

or whatever and just being like yeah

I'll have a ninety nine eight Exe until

only sells them sporadically they'll

just have like X number of them

available and then you bid on them and

so it's entirely a system integrator

only SKU but it's really interesting

because it's 14 cores unlike the 99 80

XE which has 18 course but they they are

clocked - hi Helen back like this thing

turbos - 5 gigahertz just like the 8

core processors on the consumer platform

they like the 6 & 8 course 14 course

very interesting I don't know what they

would you know what the all core turbo

is on that thing by any chance I don't

remember either but it was like

mind-bendingly hi

so we'll compare it against that as well

mostly just out of curiosity since

neither of these are something that are

going to be attainable to normal people

whether it's because they don't have

access to an Intel action or if it's

because they don't have 5 grand for a

CPU and motherboard combo I can give you

guys sort of a preview of the conclusion

mm-hmm actually this is funny I'm you

know what I'm gonna try my best to get

the conclusion exactly right it's an

utterly unique product for those who

need the absolute best of the best of

performance in a handful of unusual

workloads and or who need more

single-threaded performance and many

many course that is offered by intel's

existing workstation or server products

however if you're a regular desktop user

or even a lightweight - mid-weight

workstation user it is very unlikely

that the W 30 195 X or whatever they

call it is going to provide any

additional value for you so we'd really

recommend sticking with something else

so that sound about right

okay cool

ah well thread reverse price-performance

is going to look pretty good yes even

with the what I thought were obscenely

expensive is $500 motherboards yep

da-da-da-da-da-da-da how many people are

watching this hotness

you guys are like you guys are soldiers

at this point because this has been

agonizing agonizing all around so many

things were painful to watch to

experience there we go

okay and almost 5 minutes 13 seconds

okay are we done

5 minutes 13 seconds

wait yeah why is that purple I did load

it from the network directly did that

bug things up a little

yep okay so this is a full minute and a

half faster than the 99 80 XE which was

the previous top of Intel's heap all

right so I think that is pretty much the

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