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discount sites like dealextreme

Aliexpress and eBay can be a great way

to get awesome deals on used or

off-brand tech products and if you're

like me and you're kind of a gigantic

cheapskate the prospect of saving money

can be pretty enticing but today's video

is a cautionary one a buyer beware tale

of making sure that you think critically

about a great deal before pulling the

trigger because even spending $1 is a

waste of money if you don't get anything

useful in return for example this USB to

Ethernet adapter that is advertised as

being 10 gigabit ready for just over $4

a piece is very eye-catching but as we

are going to see a lot of the time

things like this are just too good to be

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so you might understandably find

yourself thinking wow a 10 Gigabit

Ethernet adapter for 4 u.s. dollars well

gee that sounds like a way better deal

than this 10 gig adapter from a kiddy oh

that costs a whopping $200 I mean why is

this thing even so expensive well now

that they're both here these products

don't even seem to be in the same

universe as one another via kiddie Oh

uses a high-speed Thunderbolt 3

interface it's got a large well

ventilated aluminum chassis it's got a

nice premium feel to it including a

removable cable and we actually haven't

tested this yet but theoretically if we

plug it into a device like oh say a

laptop that was a 5-4 gig file ok

so 10 gig working on a laptop and that's

nice it's bus powered - it doesn't need

any external power adapter now let's

turn our attention to our dealextreme

adapter this one is made of cheap

plastic with flimsy connectors and the

cable that I think could probably best

be described as flaccid as driverless

that's pretty nice but what in the world

could that be 100 megabit per second

let's take that same 4 gig file and have

a real bad time this doesn't even make

sense why is it going at 20 megabytes a

second oh my Wi-Fi is still okay and

you're done Biden oh boy yeah that's

what we were expecting

literally slower than Wi-Fi so at this

point it's fairly clear that this

product has been misrepresented by the

website that's selling it but the

problem is that by the time you've got

it in your hands to test it unless

you're gonna pay you know 25 bucks to

ship back

for dollar item it's a bit too late to

find out that your steal of a deal was

just a steal of your money so how do you

differentiate between a scam like this

and the real thing before you pull the

trigger you know what I'm gonna use this

10 gig adapter for my web browsing for

the rest of this video because it's sexy

now because there are cases where you

can find extraordinary value from

up-and-coming manufacturers or on

liquidation deals we're not saying that

you should just dismiss outright

anything that seems to be a bargain

we're just saying that your spidey sense

should be tingling and you need to make

sure that you're doing extra research so

the first thing that we're gonna check

is whether there is blatantly

conflicting information on the product

page check out for example this blender

that's advertised as 3 horsepower and

2200 watts for a cool $90 the problem

here is that the most you can

consistently pull from a 120 volt

circuit is about 1500 watts before you

risk tripping a breaker and the

description of the item actually does

correct this misleading title so then in

the case of our adapter here we can

actually see that the title and the

detailed specs below are at the very

least consistent both claiming to be 10

gigabit per second but then getting into

our next tip if we look closely at the

product photos we can actually see that

this adapter is clearly labeled Fast

Ethernet which yes young kids out there

is the actual official name for 100

megabit Ethernet that is only 1% of the

advertised speed and this is far from

the only example of blatant miss

labeling on sites like this one it's a

very common practice used to lure in

unsuspecting customers there are the

scan SD cards that we recently did a

video on fake brand name fashion Goods

cables that are supposedly certified for

Apple devices and of course misleading

batteries some of the batteries we found

even used quotation marks in the title

around the capacity and then show the

real capacity in the description below

although I'm pretty sure that real

capacity is probably a load of bunk as

well it's almost like clickbait titles

except in this case you're paying for it

and it's definitely false advertising

back to our Ethernet example though

we've already got enough evidence to

turn us off of this thing but there is

still more for us to learn here

conflicting specifications can be a

surefire way to identify BS so then

we've got that cleaned 10 gigabit per

second transmission speed well that's

pretty cool but what's also included

here in the description is that it's USB

2.0 type C now most people

understandably might see a USB type-c

connection and go oh well that's really

modern and fast but as a tech nerd I

know right off the bat that type C is a

physical standard that can carry all

kinds of different signals and the USB

2.0 protocol is inspect for anywhere

near 10 gigabit per second speed

actually it tops out at around 5% of

that now if you're not so technically

inclined you might not know or even have

the desire to know what the differences

are between all the USB versions and

that's where our next tip comes in if

you don't know what a specific term

means that doesn't mean it's not

important so Google it and this can be

applicable to any marketing terms or

buzzwords because those might not mean

anything at all even if you know less

bondage on your new phone sounds really

enticing back to this specific title

again though if you search up USB 2.0

the first thing that's going to come up

is the Wikipedia page for USB and it

shows that USB 2.0 is maximum signaling

rate is 480 megabit per second oops oops

the final nail in the coffin here is

actually the model number which we can

see in the photo remarketing of existing

products is very common on the

types of marketplaces see soldier

council so with a quick Google search we

find that this part number actually

corresponds to a real tech Ethernet

controller that's designed to run at 10

megabit or 100 megabit speeds now that I

think of it

we should probably crack this open and

find out if it's even a proper Realtek

controller not yet though we'll get to

that after our last tip you might have

noticed that one thing that we didn't

mention is user reviews and we'd love to

say that that's a good way to avoid

scams and negative reviews should be

heated for the most part it's just that

they're not the Silver Bullet that you

might hope fake positive reviews have

become a huge problem

even on reputable online stores like

Amazon as for these ones well simply put

they've been pretty misleading from our

experience this particular item actually

doesn't even have any reviews yet but

dealextreme shows items with no reviews

as having five filled in stars and that

only changes if our review is submitted

all right anyway we've had our fun now I

think it's time for us to crack this nut

open Jake what was the plan here ah cut

stuff I guess so this is cool as

expected we've got only four conductors

here which tells us that yes of course

this is not going to transmit it

anything more than USB to speeds you

would need nine conductors for USB 3 and

20 yeah how many for 24 yeah for

Thunderbolt 3 so yeah this is clearly

very clearly not anything other than USB

2 yes it is a real tech controlling well

at least it's printed as that so one

question you might ask yourself is if

you've only got four conductors here why

do you need this 24-pin connector on the

other end I mean it just comes down to

convenience USB type-c is reversible

it's durable and of course modern

devices are switching over to using it

it's just that we're clearly only using

a couple of pins for the actual data

interface on it so everything else is

just blank it's just not connected to

anything

by contrast let's open up our 10 gigabit

adapter here and this is one whoa beefy

beefy friggin thing although I gotta say

the design of this chassis is not really

that amazing because there's no like

heat conduction yeah get your face

between smaller or maybe I can bet you

it's very strong I'm sure you could

probably play hockey with it and then

come back and use it as your adapter

just Canadian things so there it is if

you want ten gigabit connectivity you've

got to have a 10 gigabit ready chipset

and of course you've got to have an

interface at the other end that is

actually capable of taking that 10 gig

and transmitting it to something and

you've got to have a way to dissipate

all the heat and whatnot apparently wow

this chip is so gives off so much heat

they've actually got a thermal pad on

the back that IHS here is almost as why

this is this entire board what's under

there not bad be round probably oh

you're probably right

seems fine oh oh God

what the hell kind of thermal pad is

this excellent where's your pointer

thing I don't know I'm just pocket I

just want to see oh my god no man is

that like an actual like just bare

silicon to that you're just like can

only think so no no I think it's on a

package oh god the noise is a stop chill

just chill it's all good

well I can't read it anyway don't have

to replace those the faster yeah

you mind Jake so we have much choice

about noise yeah oh god I hate it so

sorry I'm sorry it's like the tech nerd

equivalent of nails on a chalkboard

scratching a microcontroller with a

knife and I can't read it the markings

are like what like scratched off with a

knife no they're just really faint and

not like obvious anyway somehow Oh like

scratched alright well here you go so

conclusion time then we know that four

dollars versus two hundred dollars is it

a huge gap and this is a pretty obvious

example of seems too good to be true but

the point of making this video was to go

through some of the steps that you can

take for something that isn't quite as

obvious to determine the fake stuff

from the real stuff and we hope that

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