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This SILENT PC is Crazy Fast! #Helpful Post



This SILENT PC is Crazy Fast! #Helpful Post




here at LTT we're all about pushing
boundaries far beyond what anybody asks
for like when we brought you the PC made
of radiators cooling insane hardware
with zero fans what ever since then
we've wondered what would it look like
if some actually smart people tried to
achieve the same thing well today we get
to find out because the good people over
at Monster labo have done just that
creating a case that supposedly is

capable of cooling up to an intel eight
core ninety nine hundred K and an RT X
27 T completely passively but don't pass
by private Internet access private
Internet access gives you a safe and
protected IP and it's got loads of other
features as well check it out at the
link below

with this being monster lavas first
product actually it's even called the
first we were naturally a little bit
skeptical but now that we've built an
entire system inside it there actually
is some truth to their claims but more
on that later starting on the outside
the first has an understated look well I
mean ours does have a custom paint job
so it's visually a lot louder but
normally it's painted in either black or
white satin metal finish along with a
metallic accent piece which kind of to
me makes it look like a mini-fridge
but I'm not mad because with everything
else these days turning towards rainbow
barf I personally appreciate this a more
subdued look up top we get dual USB 3.0
audio and a British power button that
frankly just loves to get stuck around
back there is access to the psu and
that's about it with the motherboard i/o
relying on pass through cables limiting
you to five ports max on this oddly
unfinished backing piece it seems like
this was kind of an afterthought
especially since the included
DisplayPort pass food doesn't have
mounting holes and the HDMI pass-through
didn't come with screws but enough of
the boring stuff inside is where things
get interesting
after removing all three outer
clamshells and their accompanying 14
screws we finally get to get a glimpse
of the internals and right about now it
also starts to become apparent that this
case isn't for first-time builders or
even pretty experienced ones since we
ourselves were kind of lost at this
point but okay we're humble why not just
consult the manual because there is no
magic no monster labo instead opted for
a series of assembly videos which are
way more annoying to scrub through than
a regular print manual but nevertheless
they did help us find a few more screws
that were hiding behind this weird
fabric tape that we quickly introduced
to the trash bin once it is open up
though man is it ever cool-looking I
mean literally look at that heck and
heat sink its massive and the heat pipes
the head pipes oh he piped
both the CPU and the GPU each get six of
their own evenly spread throughout the
heatsink now I'm starting to think their
claims might actually have some merit
alright so time to throw some hardware
in it and boot it up right well because
of the first totally non-standard
mounting and form factor planning ahead
is kind of a must
thankfully monster lava has vetted a
bunch of hardware already with
compatible parts listed on their site
including what motherboards and GPUs
worked and what brackets or
modifications are necessary in our case
the triple found our TX 2070 we chose
was supposedly a non-issue all we should
have to do is remove the cooler and
strap-on monster llamas provided BRM
heatsink but it wasn't that easy the
screws for the vrm cooler weren't long
enough so we ended up having to use zip
ties to hold it all together it is worth
noting though that this accessory isn't
yet available so hopefully they'll have
all that ironed out by launch and then
again maybe quirks like this are to be
expected in this wacky realm of custom
cooling as for our X 470 motherboard it
to call for some minor modifications but
thankfully both went to subscribe first
it requires the use of their custom
riser which is only included on the
premium model so watch out for that and
second the audio chipset had to be
removed as on this board it's installed
on a riser and would otherwise block the
heat pipes this sucked so again plan
ahead don't be like us
we suck hopefully on Monster Lobos
second case the heat pipes are
positioned to better comedy boards like
this as daughter boards aren't uncommon
on ITX motherboards things did start to
look up though when it finally came time
to put all the pieces together that is
until we went to mount the motherboard
and found that there was no mention
anywhere of which bracket to use for
AMD's a.m. for socket fortunately though
monster lavas customer service was
pretty quick to respond and they
informed us that a.m. for boards
actually used two of the brackets in
tandem which was easy enough after we
figured it out once that was out of the
way the rest of the assembly was pretty
straightforward you might have to bend
the heat pipe just a little bit and
slide the motherboard and GPU mounts
back and forth in order to make sure
everything lines up properly but that's
apparently pretty normal installing
Coursera's SF 600 sfx power supply was a
walk in the park and if fan doesn't even
spin up at full load with this setup
nice storage wise we opted for a Samsung
m2 SSD for the first does advertised
support for three two and a half inch
drives along with one three and a half
inch drive if that butters your biscuit
just above the PSU is where the included
140 millimeter fan can be mounted or it
can be removed to accommodate full ATX
power supplies a nice touch but who
cares about all that we want to know
about performance and as you can imagine
with a high-end set up like what we
chose temperatures are simply not going
to be as low as with a fan cooled setup
but for something that's entirely
passive this is pretty impressive we did
notice when running without the fan the
2700 X loses some boost o'clock while
hitting 84 degrees Celsius under an eye
264 CPU load but if you remove the top
cover panel like they recommend it's
really competent monster Lavo does
mention that the actual passive TDP
rating on the first is only 215 watts
but you'd be hard-pressed to find an
application that would actually load
both parts to 100% power drop
consistently hence why you could run a
higher end config like we did once the
fan is added into plate temps are a lot
more comfortable
we sat hours to run at 700 rpm which was
inaudible even as close to a foot away
from the case speaking of inaudible the
coil wind from the GPU is not because of
the way it's positioned the GPUs power
distribution is right near the big fat
opening on the top of the case and
without the higher noise floor of a
typical fan cooled build the video cards
high-pitched whine is surprisingly
irritating even from a sitting distance
it sucks and I guess that's kind of
where the concept of these passive cases
starts to fall apart for me
coil whine IMO is actually way more
annoying than the low hum of a fan and
frankly with a decent a i/o on your CPU
and the gargantuan GPU coolers of today
most regular rigs
tend to be pretty inaudible anyway so if
it were me I'd stick to the a prevention
fan setup but if you're not an audio
file or just hate hearing your PC you
can find a GPU that doesn't suffer for
much coil whine and if you don't mind
your hardware running a little hotter
than most
this can be an awesome way to achieve a
nearly silent PC as for the first itself
for a $400 plus case it's kind of a hot
mess but honestly I love it I just like
it I don't know that I'd recommend it
full-on clearly one or two corners were
cut but it's just so freakin cool I kind
of looks like a like a build-your-own
horse or one so yeah I want it fresh
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thanks for watching guys just like this
video if you thought I sucked like it if
you didn't and be sure to subscribe join
our forum and visit our merch store
where you can get cool shirts like this
one that say Linus is name on them

here at LTT we're all about pushing
boundaries far beyond what anybody asks
for like when we brought you the PC made
of radiators cooling insane hardware
with zero fans what ever since then
we've wondered what would it look like
if some actually smart people tried to
achieve the same thing well today we get
to find out because the good people over
at Monster labo have done just that
creating a case that supposedly is
capable of cooling up to an intel eight
core ninety nine hundred K and an RT X
27 T completely passively but don't pass
by private Internet access private
Internet access gives you a safe and
protected IP and it's got loads of other
features as well check it out at the
link below

with this being monster lavas first
product actually it's even called the
first we were naturally a little bit
skeptical but now that we've built an
entire system inside it there actually
is some truth to their claims but more
on that later starting on the outside
the first has an understated look well I
mean ours does have a custom paint job
so it's visually a lot louder but
normally it's painted in either black or
white satin metal finish along with a
metallic accent piece which kind of to
me makes it look like a mini-fridge
but I'm not mad because with everything
else these days turning towards rainbow
barf I personally appreciate this a more
subdued look up top we get dual USB 3.0
audio and a British power button that
frankly just loves to get stuck around
back there is access to the psu and
that's about it with the motherboard i/o
relying on pass through cables limiting
you to five ports max on this oddly
unfinished backing piece it seems like
this was kind of an afterthought
especially since the included
DisplayPort pass food doesn't have
mounting holes and the HDMI pass-through
didn't come with screws but enough of
the boring stuff inside is where things
get interesting
after removing all three outer
clamshells and their accompanying 14
screws we finally get to get a glimpse
of the internals and right about now it
also starts to become apparent that this
case isn't for first-time builders or
even pretty experienced ones since we
ourselves were kind of lost at this
point but okay we're humble why not just
consult the manual because there is no
magic no monster labo instead opted for
a series of assembly videos which are
way more annoying to scrub through than
a regular print manual but nevertheless
they did help us find a few more screws
that were hiding behind this weird
fabric tape that we quickly introduced
to the trash bin once it is open up
though man is it ever cool-looking I
mean literally look at that heck and
heat sink its massive and the heat pipes
the head pipes oh he piped
both the CPU and the GPU each get six of
their own evenly spread throughout the
heatsink now I'm starting to think their
claims might actually have some merit
alright so time to throw some hardware
in it and boot it up right well because
of the first totally non-standard
mounting and form factor planning ahead
is kind of a must
thankfully monster lava has vetted a
bunch of hardware already with
compatible parts listed on their site
including what motherboards and GPUs
worked and what brackets or
modifications are necessary in our case
the triple found our TX 2070 we chose
was supposedly a non-issue all we should
have to do is remove the cooler and
strap-on monster llamas provided BRM
heatsink but it wasn't that easy the
screws for the vrm cooler weren't long
enough so we ended up having to use zip
ties to hold it all together it is worth
noting though that this accessory isn't
yet available so hopefully they'll have
all that ironed out by launch and then
again maybe quirks like this are to be
expected in this wacky realm of custom
cooling as for our X 470 motherboard it
to call for some minor modifications but
thankfully both went to subscribe first
it requires the use of their custom
riser which is only included on the
premium model so watch out for that and
second the audio chipset had to be
removed as on this board it's installed
on a riser and would otherwise block the
heat pipes this sucked so again plan
ahead don't be like us
we suck hopefully on Monster Lobos
second case the heat pipes are
positioned to better comedy boards like
this as daughter boards aren't uncommon
on ITX motherboards things did start to
look up though when it finally came time
to put all the pieces together that is
until we went to mount the motherboard
and found that there was no mention
anywhere of which bracket to use for
AMD's a.m. for socket fortunately though
monster lavas customer service was
pretty quick to respond and they
informed us that a.m. for boards
actually used two of the brackets in
tandem which was easy enough after we
figured it out once that was out of the
way the rest of the assembly was pretty
straightforward you might have to bend
the heat pipe just a little bit and
slide the motherboard and GPU mounts
back and forth in order to make sure
everything lines up properly but that's
apparently pretty normal installing
Coursera's SF 600 sfx power supply was a
walk in the park and if fan doesn't even
spin up at full load with this setup
nice storage wise we opted for a Samsung
m2 SSD for the first does advertised
support for three two and a half inch
drives along with one three and a half
inch drive if that butters your biscuit
just above the PSU is where the included
140 millimeter fan can be mounted or it
can be removed to accommodate full ATX
power supplies a nice touch but who
cares about all that we want to know
about performance and as you can imagine
with a high-end set up like what we
chose temperatures are simply not going
to be as low as with a fan cooled setup
but for something that's entirely
passive this is pretty impressive we did
notice when running without the fan the
2700 X loses some boost o'clock while
hitting 84 degrees Celsius under an eye
264 CPU load but if you remove the top
cover panel like they recommend it's
really competent monster Lavo does
mention that the actual passive TDP
rating on the first is only 215 watts
but you'd be hard-pressed to find an
application that would actually load
both parts to 100% power drop
consistently hence why you could run a
higher end config like we did once the
fan is added into plate temps are a lot
more comfortable
we sat hours to run at 700 rpm which was
inaudible even as close to a foot away
from the case speaking of inaudible the
coil wind from the GPU is not because of
the way it's positioned the GPUs power
distribution is right near the big fat
opening on the top of the case and
without the higher noise floor of a
typical fan cooled build the video cards
high-pitched whine is surprisingly
irritating even from a sitting distance
it sucks and I guess that's kind of
where the concept of these passive cases
starts to fall apart for me
coil whine IMO is actually way more
annoying than the low hum of a fan and
frankly with a decent a i/o on your CPU
and the gargantuan GPU coolers of today
most regular rigs
tend to be pretty inaudible anyway so if
it were me I'd stick to the a prevention
fan setup but if you're not an audio
file or just hate hearing your PC you
can find a GPU that doesn't suffer for
much coil whine and if you don't mind
your hardware running a little hotter
than most
this can be an awesome way to achieve a
nearly silent PC as for the first itself
for a $400 plus case it's kind of a hot
mess but honestly I love it I just like
it I don't know that I'd recommend it
full-on clearly one or two corners were
cut but it's just so freakin cool I kind
of looks like a like a build-your-own
horse or one so yeah I want it fresh
books is the small business accounting
software custom-built for how you want
to work it's the simple way to be more
productive organized and get paid
quickly fresh books lets you create and
send professional-looking invoices in
less than 30 seconds set up online
payments with just a couple of clicks so
you can get paid up to four days faster
and see when your client has viewed your
invoice to put an end to the guessing
games for your unrestricted 30-day free
trial just go to fresh books comm slash
tech tips and enter Linus tech tips in
the how did you hear about us section so
thanks for watching guys just like this
video if you thought I sucked like it if
you didn't and be sure to subscribe join
our forum and visit our merch store
where you can get cool shirts like this
one that say Linus is name on them


Linus tech tips is over 10 years old now
so it's easy for us to forget that many
viewers may be encountering the world of
PC building for the first time and while
there's lots of great PC building
tutorials out there there are also some
that verge on misinformation so in this
video we are going back to basics with
episode 2 of how to basics installing a
CPU


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so let's start then from the very
beginning it's a good place to start
what do you install the CPU into the CPU
socket where's the socket on the
motherboard where's the motherboard well
here's where we get to step 1 on top of
a non metal non conductive surface like
the box that it came in now if you don't
have the motherboard you're gonna want
to go back a few steps and pick one of
those up first that's pretty important
now there are two main types of CPU
sockets that you should probably know
about in 2019 and actually for years to
come
LG a style sockets and PGA style sockets
Intel primarily uses land grid array or
LG ace
meaning that the socket itself is made
up of a grid of pins so these touch
gold-plated flat contacts or pads on the
bottom of the CPU and that is what
allows your PC to run all of your
spreadsheet simulators AMD on the other
hand uses more commonly a pin grid array
or PGA configuration that means that the
pins are on the CPU instead of on the
socket so PGA sockets are simply a grid
of holes that the CPU drops into with no
force required now this makes it much
safer to handle the motherboard without
worrying about damaging the pins which
can be pretty much the end of your CPU
installation endeavor but it also means
that you have to be extra careful with
the CPU Intel actually originally used
PGA's but they switch to LGA around 2002
presumably because processors are
generally more expensive than
motherboards and if you're going to
accidentally bend or break a pin you
want your new paperweight to be as cheap
as possible with that said it's not
impossible to repair socket pins it's
just extremely difficult and extremely
easy to cause even further damage to
other pins while you try to fix the one
that's bent so your best bet is to send
it to an experienced technician if you
run into this no pressure but anyway you
aren't just concerned with the type of
socket but also the number of pins so
Intel's main consumer socket LGA 1151
has 1151 pins while they're 2066 socket
which is geared more towards enthusiasts
has 2066 pins on the AMD side a m4 has
1331 so if AMD was using the same naming
scheme as Intel it would be pga 1331 i
guess and then there tr4 socket which is
actually an LGA well that one has 4,000
94 pins which is where things get pretty
confusing because sometimes AMD does use
LG ace now some of these sockets have
been around for a few years and may
continue to be used by Intel and AMD so
something you need to note is that just
because a CPU physically fits into a
particular socket does not necessarily
mean it will be compatible and this was
a lesson that Riley who prepared this
episode learned all too well in our
cheapest Amazon PC video now sockets are
different from chipsets a specific
configuration of hardware and software
that allows the processor memory and the
peripherals in a system to communicate
with each other processors often launch
alongside compatible chipsets but
sometimes they'll be forwards or
backwards compatible with the next or
previous generation the thing though is
this might require a BIOS update in
order to work so you will need to
consult your motherboard manufacturers
website in order to know 100% for sure
which CPUs work in which motherboards
and if a BIOS update is required okay so
now that we've done our homework we know
our processors compatible with our
motherboard it's time to drop that
sucker in except don't actually drop it
because
as I said the pins regardless of what
they're attached to are extremely
fragile and susceptible to damage
now these following steps apply broadly
to both of Intel sockets and to AMD's a
m4 socket while tr4 AMD's enthusiasts
socket for thread Ripper does do things
a little bit differently
before you begin you're gonna want to
grab an anti-static wrist strap that's
connected to a ground or you're going to
want to keep your feet stationary and
touch a metal part of your case or power
supply with your power supply plugged
into the wall to discharge any static
buildup on your body now if you're
upgrading your CPU on an existing system
the first thing you're going to need to
do is unplug your CPUs cooler so find
where the fan cable plugs into the
header on the motherboard and just pull
it off for Intel systems it's pretty
common to see these two lists plastic
pins installed around the socket simply
rotate them in the direction indicated
pop them open and pull the CPU cooler
off on the AMD side of things you should
find a little lever like this on one
side of the processor socket pull it up
and the latches on either side of your
CPU should loosen so you can pull them
off the little hooks on the side and
remove the cooler be careful though it's
not uncommon for the CPU to get pulled
off with the heatsink exposing its
fragile pins it's not a huge problem as
long as you don't bend anything though
if you're doing a new installation
rather than upgrading though Intel LGA
sockets will have a socket cover in
place
leave this where it is is it will come
off by itself when you lock in the CPU
instead lift up the retention arm or
arms on the side of the socket this will
allow you to lift up the socket lid next
hold your processor being careful to
only touch the edges if you touch the
contacts on the bottom not only can this
interfere with electrical contact but it
can actually cause corrosion over the
long term next look for an arrow in one
corner of the CPU this will line up with
a similar mark
on one of the corners of the socket
there may also by the way be notches on
the sides of the CPU these should line
up with tiny nubbins in the side of the
socket if you're not a hundred percent
sure about your arrows once you've
determined the correct orientation lower
the CPU into the socket gently there's
no need to push or apply any force
though I do recommend giving it a tiny
wiggle just to make sure that it's
seated properly and to let it know that
you still love it no matter what next
lower the socket lid over the CPU making
sure that it fits back under the screw
or bracket that held it in originally
then push the retention arm down and
under the hook so it stays into place if
you've got two arms
they'll be designed so that one goes
down first and then the other just like
this now that process is pretty similar
for most consumer boards and CPUs for
the last ten almost 20 years but AMD's
TR for socket that one's a little more
involved your thread Ripper CPU will
actually come with the Torx screwdriver
that you need to install it first loosen
the three screws holding down the socket
lid it'll say which order to loosen them
in so don't just unscrew them all
willy-nilly once you've got them
loosened those screws will stay inside
the socket lid which will pop up on its
own because it's spring-loaded
so that's pretty fun under the lid you
will find another lid which has a
plastic tray inside lift this lid up
holding it by the sides then slide the
plastic tray upward and then put it away
to the side next is the actual socket
cover which protects the pins we're just
going to leave that there for the moment
now thread Ripper CPUs come
pre-installed into an orange plastic
housing do not try to remove it it is
supposed to be there holding it by the
tab on one side slide the CPU into the
rails in that second lid with the bottom
facing the socket until it kind of
clicks into place
then you can remove the socket cover
from the actual pins by pinching the
grab points in the middle and then lower
the second lid containing the CPU now on
to the socket gently push and it will
secure itself into place at which point
you can then lower the first lid and
start screwing the screws back into
place now that Torx screwdriver that's
included is designed specifically for
these screws so once they're threaded in
a little you can tighten them in the
order that's specified on the socket lid
until the tool clicks and that's it your
CPU is installed but it won't last very
long without a CPU cooler now if you
have a third party cooler that's
probably gonna come with its own
instructions detailing how exactly to
mount it if it has no pre applied
thermal paste you're going to need to
add your own to the top of the CPU
before installing just remember guys
that when it comes to thermal paste less
is more you only need to fill the small
imperfections between the CPU and the
heatsink there's no mystical pentagram
of thermal paste required to summon the
PC Gamer gods that's only gonna end up
with a whole bunch of thermal compound
all over your motherboard which probably
won't damage it but it'll be really
messy to clean up gamers Nexus as mod
matte actually has a great guide for how
to apply thermal compound to most modern
CPUs so consumer chips just the small
ones a simple line down the middle is
perfect for Intel enthusiasts CPUs for
smaller dots in each corner will do your
wonders and for thread Ripper you want
to make an X with four dots in between
the lines to help fill in the gaps the
thing is that the larger the actual CPU
die under the heat spreader on top is
the more thermal compound you need to
make sure that you get full coverage
because any die area that doesn't have
thermal compound is going to result in
hot spots on your CPU which at the very
least can limit your overclocking
potential now main line processors
usually come with the cooler while
enthusiast ones sometimes do not now
many coolers come with pre-installed
thermal paste on the bottom in which
case there's no need for extra if you do
have a stock cooler
simply line up the four mounting pins
with the four holes on the motherboard
socket if you're using it by the way you
will need to reset those pins back to
their original location and then push
down on the opposing sets of pins until
they click into place as for AMD it's
the same process in Reverse from removal
where we simply hook the side of the
cooler without the latch first then the
latch side and close the arm now it can
sometimes take a little bit of force but
if you feel like you're overdoing it
then you should probably check the
bottom side and make sure that nothing's
interfering after your cooler is secured
you can connect your fan plug in to the
closest four pin header on your
motherboard which will usually be
clearly labeled CPU fan now that we've
got our CPU installed we could just say
ah that's great let's call it a day but
we won't because we're professional
technicians it's good practice to make
sure that your CPU is actually seated
correctly and just because the system
boots doesn't mean that it is so you're
gonna want to go into your motherboards
BIOS which is normally accessed by
pressing delete or f2 when you first
power on your system to make sure that
all of your RAM sticks show up it is
very common especially on thread Ripper
CPUs for some of the pins to not make
perfect contact which can cause one or
more of your memory slots not to
function correctly if you do run into
this it's okay probably nothing is
damaged just go ahead and take it out
reinstall it and try again and then
that's really it your CPUs installed the
brain of your system some might call it
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