coming up we have an interview with Dave
Fox he's a niche site entrepreneur my
name is Doug Huntington I'm the founder
of niche site project
Dave Fox is a guy I've known for like
over two years now I started coaching
him in early 2015 and you know we met
about five or six times we got him
started on his niche site and he slowly
built a portfolio of sites
he has similar between eight and ten or
maybe more when I asked him to question
he wasn't a hundred percent sure so we
talked about a few things like the
number of sites that Dave thinks he has
the link building techniques that Dave
has adopted what he likes he's actually
tested out the scholarship technique so
we'll definitely talk about that a
little bit we look at how he views
content and what he does for content on
his site and he also shares just some
general tips for people getting started
and well let's just get to the interview
thanks Dave hey what's up it's Doug
Pennington here from niche site project
of course and I have a very special
guest today mr. Fox Dave Fox you've
probably seen this guy before he's all
over the niche site seen uh he get
hardly you can hardly keep it together
welcome Dave thanks for joining me today
thank Doug way to be here so the readers
of niche type projects have probably
seen your story before and it's been
about a year since we've talked we have
pinged each other and stuff but I just
wanted to catch up give a proper update
and to see what's been going on so I
think well just to refresh my memory
because I didn't review very well so a
while back like about two plus years ago
you and I started working together this
was you know just straight up coaching
for a few hands and then you launched
one site out of that yeah then after you
got you know feel for what was going on
you launched a few more sites so where
are you out right now how many niche
sites do you have out there
ah I guess there's probably eight eight
or nine it's I'm cute like obviously
like I would know right like I should
know the exact number but there's a
couple that kind of like slows offs and
like I kind of forget about them because
they're maybe not as highly prioritized
and also I'm helping some friends with
some sites so those they're like kind of
like hybrid like half niche sites so
there's at least you know ten floating
around but the ones that I focus on
there's probably eight okay and then are
there like a couple that you really
like those are your babies kinda yeah
it's got a little bit hectic in the
sense of the ones that are doing the
best financially I don't focus on the
most for some reason like I keep them
keep them going but I feel like they're
doing well and I guess it's just I'm
stubborn so the new ones that I started
about a year ago I've been like slaving
away trying to get them like out of the
sandbox sure or what have you and so
being stubborn and just like I really
want them to kind of like get out of
that sort of beginning stage and so I've
been working hard on those for most of
the past year you know - and the other
sites are doing pretty well so I kind of
like they're not coasting but they're
kind of like they're a little more
they're not as they're not as stressful
as the other ones that are newer gotcha
I can totally relate I know exactly what
you're talking about so can you give us
some idea on the revenue that you're
making right now
it may be like you could tell us you
know sort of how it grew or in
contracted or and grew or whatever sure
yeah I saw a boat I guess last summer I
was getting up to that like four or five
K range per month and that was pretty
cool and then I was kind of like hoping
you know like I was on on part to keep
escalating I guess and then Christmas
came along and that was really good I
got to like nine
nine or so K for December which was
amazing oh no that was an awesome month
because I never had to happen before I
guess the previous year it's like dog to
like two or something so it was quite a
leap and after Christmas things didn't
completely fall fall off like they've
stayed up like around six or so but then
in March there was the Amazon rate
reconfiguration and that's when things
kind of got slammed a bit but yeah I was
like legitimately depressed for like a
good two or three weeks yeah I remember
her yeah I thought go ahead yeah know
what I was going to say I mean you might
my sights got hit too you know my
revenue went down by like thirty five
percent and then in a you know another
story that I'm logging about on mission
I project project go white hat like that
site that we were going to sell for like
five hundred thousand like it took a 35%
hit and you can imagine that yeah so
make a value of the site he go down by
thirty five percent so I I wasn't super
thrilled about it either okay to say to
say the least but you know it's all good
it sounds like you know you're in a
better place now so so what did that do
to your revenue if you again if you
could share so drop by like thirty five
percent probably yeah and drop by
because my main site which is in like
the housewares niche right I think they
drop struck to like five or maybe it's
five point five but it was like I was
getting about eight right and so yeah it
really kind of like took a dive and Mike
like it wasn't it's not the traffic was
still consistent and the traffic's even
gone up a bit but like when that
happened it was like there's a month or
two where things dropped like because I
was making the most money and then but
unluckily another site with a higher
Commission rate overtook that site so
like that site is sort of like
it's gotten out of the way there's
another site that's kind of doing well
so in the end what happened I guess it
was like as I took the cut for a couple
months and then things are caught back
up to the 5k so I think I would be at
about seven right now if it wasn't for
like that Amazon thing but like things
are sort of comfortably at five and
still going rising again so like I I
feel like it set me back a little bit in
terms of like the revenue but like yeah
I I've never really been completely
about the revenue anyway just in the
sense of like if I was I would be like
slamming my like super like monetizable
sites like with all the content but I'm
sort of like just hooked on these other
sites on like come on like it's like it
you know being like just trying to get
them to go forward so luckily I have
distractions away from like the like the
35% cut yeah okay so and I could again I
could I can relate you know you love the
game like once you once you got into it
it was like you like seeing the growth
you like to start stuff from scratch
yeah I know I told you don't do it like
don't build so many site it's just you
know focus up man and I mean it still
works and you obviously you're enjoying
yourself so that's good so you're about
you're about at 5k per month and you
have what sounds like to be maybe six or
seven sites that are about a year old
that you have been spending time on is
that right yeah okay cool and I mean I
would imagine right so when we talked
before and I'm going to summarize again
so in in December of 2015 you made about
$2,000 a month and then December of 2016
you made about $9,000 yeah and then
things you know things come down after
the retail season unfortunately Amazon
if people aren't familiar Amazon changed
the commission structure and generally
people's revenue went down because that
a lot of people went down between like
25 and 35
yeah for most people that I've talked to
that sold a significant amount so that's
unfortunate but it's stabilized right
now it's about 5k per mine which is you
know fantastic congratulations on that
for ability like yeah over a full year
of that revenues like super awesome and
then my prediction right so this is what
I was going to say my prediction is
probably one or two of the sites that
you have been working on will probably
break out and yeah you know traffic is
going to go way up and I mean you may
have a you know twelve or fifteen or
twenty K December because you're like
pumping out content at this point yeah
yeah yep totally all yeah tons of
content yeah that's like with the news
sites yet they're just getting to that
point where they're starting to get like
get up out of the sandbox I guess like
there's definitely points where like a
couple of sites like just it's a
discernible like jump for no other
reason than just the time right like the
timing so it's not like the content it's
really kind of challenging to keep like
content pumping out that's what I spend
most of my money on essentially it's
like content on all the sites and like
managing that whole situation it's a lot
right but I feel like having all those
sites it's like it's an asset to have
all these like some getting more mature
like sites that are fairly like you know
like planned out and stuff like that so
and it's fun for me so versus the just
like sort of the sub money like it's the
bottom line kind of thing yeah so just
as I mean like at this point I think I
would have if I just was thinking about
that all the time I probably would have
been like totally burned out on it but I
sort of got more into like thinking in
terms of like a more or just sort of
like how I like things I want to learn
about and things I want to look into so
it's sort of there's a lot of fun
aspects of it too
okay cool so when it digress for a
second right so in a minute we're going
to talk about some of your link building
stuff that you do I want to hear about
your content
team and that sort of thing but we're
chatting like a little earlier and you
were talking about like going to the gym
more especially like it's summertime
right now I don't know when people watch
this but like yeah
what other like stuff were you able to
do now you have like consistent revenue
I think you're making more money than
you used to not yet one resource format
right so like yeah how's your life
change like what are you up to
it's definitely like changed a lot in
the sense of like I can have a personal
trainer now which was like a big deal
and like I can I can just you know get a
few more things like I don't I don't
like just like I'm not like a Shopaholic
or anything but I just you know can get
a few more things if you if you spend
your money like a little bit wisely
which I I kind of put money towards
things that I feel like I I need and
it's sort of a little more there's more
leeway but it's in it it it means a lot
right to have that leeway like personal
trainer that's a big deal to me and
things like that or I could just like
fix my my bike or whatever my car which
I couldn't do any of that before I
was just like I'd be like broke
and couldn't do that and I just be like
the prat like when you're you know
obviously everybody knows that when you
don't have money it's like it's limiting
yeah so having having a bit of leeway is
very helpful in a lot of ways for sure
yeah and the personal trainer and stuff
and go into the gym I mean I don't have
a personal trainer but do go to the gym
often and like that's a cool thing that
I was you know happy I'm able to join a
gym and I'm sure it makes a huge
difference for you you look stronger you
know look healthy and everything so yeah
yeah thanks I mean like totally because
it's like they don't it's been about a
year since I like got the trainer and I
it's not even like the trainer's been
like you know whipping me into shape and
like I'm on some crazy diet but it's
just like yeah I do feel a little bit
better you know I was like then I did
before because I mean you can do it all
yourself but I like it's one of those
things where I'm like it is sort of a
nice perk to like because it's whatever
motivates you right like for me if I go
to the gym a lot by myself like it's not
as motivating as if I have a friend or a
trainer or someone but just even going
to the gym like on
cervesas is like really helpful and
keeps it yeah I like the whole movement
thing like there was a time at Yad nough
in the winter where I was like a lot of
sitting and a lot of just sort of like
on the computer with the lights and
stuff and I was like I think I just like
got to me to the point I'm like I can't
like
continually do that I have to like make
sure I get up and get out of the house a
lot more you know yeah and you know what
speaking I need to I don't get a lot of
Sun you know we're in we're in like the
northern region of the world here so I'm
in Montana you're in Canada which move
what part of Canada sorry I forget
Ontario Ontario so that's kind of on the
eastern side right this yeah yeah yeah
but so I mean we have like long nights
in the winter there's not much daylight
so yeah I mean we're Dave and I are
super can right now because in the
summer but you may not be able to tell
because I actually feel pretty pasty
okay let's bring it back to internet
marketing
thanks for digressing for a second so
mmm content so you're pumping out
content what does your team look like
where are you hiring people just take me
through that okay basically I get most
of my people through up work but I still
have like lately I've been hiring more
friends to do things because I think
I've taken a bit of a turn with the
content in terms of I'm now I want to
hire people or work with people I want
people that really really kind of care
about like what they're saying or what
they're writing so rather than have the
guy that can he can write about like a
specific topic but it's just not
completely authentic because he's sort
of just like you know winging it a bit
yet to learn about it and research it
like I'd rather have people that like
essentially know and like really know
what they're talking about so like I try
lately just to find those people from
the get-go as opposed to like training
people to learn about things that they
don't know about yeah right so like
instead of having some writer that like
is very versatile but like knows nothing
about it like say like deep-sea diving
and then you're like okay you're going
to write 10 or 20 articles with deep-sea
diving like go you know that I find that
just more effective nap now so I'd like
to find a deep-sea diver and it right
right yeah things like that so and
there's like a lot of I mean I think I
went a little bit over overboard with
hiring like lots of writers and I'm
trying to scale it back of it because
having all those people it's kind of fun
for a while and eventually I'm like well
it's just logistically too crazy so
which I'm sure you can like see you know
like you're more of like be organized
you like to be organized that's your
thing my thing is like I'm not organized
trying to get a little more organized
yeah so yeah so how many writers did you
have like when you realize it was too
many and like how many is the right
number okay 15 or 20 well I like just
doing different like amounts right like
not not everyday or anything but just
like people coming out the woodwork like
submitting things at random times my
budget couldn't really handle it because
I would be like oh that guy oh those
articles right right so like I just went
a little bit over the top with hiring so
many people and now it's like I want to
have like sort of a core team of like
you know I have one person I work with
all the time and but she doesn't she
doesn't get around to all the sites so I
think like maybe one writer per site is
possibly like a reasonable sure amount
so I'm trying to cut back a bit yeah
yeah I'm right it's like chips or
cookies yeah okay cool that makes sense
and I mean like I could understand again
like what you're talking about when you
know good times are here you had a big
month like hey I want to reinvest and
then all of a sudden it's like too many
writers and the cash flow doesn't
support it so that that all makes sense
and I mean having one write or per site
makes a huge mana sense especially if
you have someone that knows or at least
is
I'll be interested in the topic like
yeah at least then you don't have to
have someone write about you know five
different niches and they really don't
know anything about any of them and all
the contents kind of crappy so that the
essence like a nice way to do it yeah I
think it's like as I go along I actually
do like want to make sites that are like
I can show to people like I don't I
think for a while I didn't care but now
I'm getting more into like like I want
to share the sites with certain people
and I don't want them to be like garbage
yeah yeah totally
so okay any other thoughts on like
content or anything like that like yeah
I mean like there's a lot to think about
when it comes to like how long it should
be focus all the SEO stuff like you know
this is a very specific like keyword
density or like how to structure the URL
and like the title and all that meta
tags and stuff like I'm always playing
around with that and trying to figure
out what's going on I feel like I'm more
in tune with it than I used to be and
it's still like it's an ongoing process
of like trying that out because I think
a lot yeah I do a lot of throwing stuff
at the wall and seeing what sticks I'm
not like you know I haven't mastered it
by far eyes like there's still a lot of
stuff around like I don't I don't know
what like why I'm not ranking for this
or I think with some of the niches
though it's there you'd really do have
to know what you're talking about and so
you can't just like sort of whip up a
bunch of articles and expand they kind
of make sense for niche that's very
technical you know what I mean like
right it's so like comment stuff you're
gonna you have you kind of are obligated
to like really know like or have someone
that really knows that the topic or else
you're gonna people might even like you
know you're really misleading people
like some of the products are like if
you're doing like again I'll use the
deep-sea diving thing but like you can't
tell someone how to use a deep-sea
diving
product and not actually know how to use
it you know right they might get
dangerous yeah yes you said
couple things like do you have any tips
on keyword density on like titling your
like the meta title for a post or yeah
on page otherwise like what do you
recommend for people I feel like it's
easy to forget just the basic stuff like
for instance I have one sizes it's kind
of in the music it's in the music niche
you could say and then like I was doing
some kind of experiments with like how
fast you can rank for something and yeah
it's amazing like how there's certain
types of things that are out there where
in the end it serves like nobody like
I'll look at the top 20 like results for
a keyword and literally no one done it
like right you know like no one's done
it like it's not like domain flash the
keyword it's like domain / something
slash something numbers keyword
backwards it's like it's not you know
like that they're obviously not thinking
about it you know and so if if I think
about that like if I could just if you
could just write an article but it has
that right and then make sure there's
some guy was like a it's like something
there's a guy with a bell coming up the
street I'm not sure what's going on so
anyway um here's it yeah anyway so yeah
you can like just do this like I just
make sure to get the basic so it's like
the title and the URL are you know the
cute like little as related to the
keyword as they can be and then you know
you start writing the content you
mention it in the first paragraph you
might throw it in one of the header tags
but you don't mention it that much but
does it just have to be about that
whatever the title is that content has
to follow that so it's all super duper
simple logical thing but like it's easy
to get like oh like forget that for some
reason you'll I'll think of a funny
title and then I'll like use that
instead I'll be like wait a minute the
keywords not in that Oh like and I'll go
back and fix it later but things like
that you know I mean cool yeah yeah
like well it's tough in five-figure
niche site right so it's just stuff like
you and I we did the coaching it's like
hey you know basic things for on page
SEO use the keyword in title use the
keyword in the URL use the keyword in
like the first paragraph the first
hundred and fifty words say and use the
keyword and some subheadings yeah and
also omit yeah make it a boat make sure
it's about that keyword you know like as
opposed to just thinking like you could
just stick the keyword in and sort of as
long as you put those words and it'll
rank for that but it's like yeah but
also have to be about that thing yeah
exactly yeah no obvious just most
obvious stuff but it is easy to screw up
especially if you're like having a bunch
of content and you're not like right
checking everything so that that can be
a little tough so alright I want to
shift gears over to like your link
building and just ranking and stuff like
that so what do you do for link building
these days and yeah just leave it open
what do you what are you doing for link
building well I was doing the
scholarship thing right for like maybe
four or five months and that really
works like that worked like pretty well
for a few sites like I couldn't believe
how it worked you know what I mean like
it was funny because I have like this
one site that has a really stupid name
and it's amazing that these like some
college will put it on their scholarship
page you know like these just like you
can tell when it's like niche sites that
are approaching colleges versus like
real real scholarship people yeah so
like I mean and that was became like the
thing because it was like you know it's
like oh wow it's like you know if this
guy is accepting a scholarship then like
so that would be that would be the tip I
think I don't know if I've shared this
tip for somewhere else but like the
whole thing where if such if someone
gets they're like stupid niche site onto
a scholarship page like an outside
scholarship and then you do a search for
that scholarship and that that
particular person right you see them on
every scholarship page they've gotten on
and they're
or that means those colleges or
universities accept scholarships from
just about anybody right right so
that'll that'll trick but it took me it
like I didn't clue into that right away
and eventually I was like oh right like
you know this guy's getting on there
that I can get on there like there'd be
some colleges where you'd be like can I
get on there but like you're sort of
like going up against like real
scholarships like real like five ten
thousand dollar scholarships there's no
outside scholarship page you don't need
to bother emailing them they're not
going to let you write on page those
other super legit scholarships but
there's plenty of colleges that just
want to give money to students so I
ended up following through on that
honest or at least one of the
scholarships because some other
scholarship contest didn't work I was
the same or as well as the one did one
like worked really well got all these
submissions and I eventually did pay
some on the prize
sure so right okay a couple questions so
how how much which is the scholarship
for five hundred cool and then when so
it worked really well for one site yeah
like what were the results as far as the
ranking on that site so I expect right
it paid off right so it was the impact
it paid off you know okay I'm still kind
of like not sure if I'm like ready to
jump like into and do it again but so
the same depth a attention to our like
okay so your traffic increases like as
the scholarship kicks in but you know a
lot of that traffic is going to the
scholarship right so it's like okay so I
just got I'm getting like a hundred more
people a day that's amazing and then you
check the analytics like most of them
are going to the scholarship aid so but
I did notice that sort of a an overall
increase because like in the end you end
up having like like you know I got like
10 like edu links from that I also got
like a bunch of content from that that I
could use and I also got like a net like
increase in
traffic from that so it did work out but
it like I think I was talking this to my
friend about this Saturday - there's
like and how like there's there's a sort
of like saturation point with like
something's edu lengths I think we're
like you can have like a bunch of them
but like at a certain point Google's
like okay enough with the edu length we
get it you have some meeting you like
like having like ten or twenty or like
100 I'm not sure if it's going to like
to exponentially increase your traffic
like as you keep getting edu length like
because it's only one type of link right
so yeah Google's like okay that you
caught that covered that's good like
stop doing yeah okay cool and you know
what I number one I'll probably do a
tutorial like maybe a multi series
tutorial on doing this I have tested it
before I saw pretty nice results yeah in
general and there's a couple like tricks
to it and you know you mentioned I'm
sort of organized some time so like I
tried to keep it pretty systemized or
yeah just systems around it so it was
fairly controlled and I believe right so
one thing I've heard about these
scholarship links ever since I heard
about SEO right people were talking
about it like four years ago but it
wasn't very popular and then like about
a year and some change ago a few niche
site like influencers I'll column yeah
did this they had some good results and
then they shared it and then a whole
bunch of people started doing it and I
believe the effectiveness is probably
exactly what you said where you get a
few of these links and it's good and
then if you get like a hundred more it's
like just incrementally good it's not a
huge deal so yeah yeah it's it's kind of
cool when you see it in action and
you're like you look you see there's
like payday loans calm and giving a
scholarship and you're like really like
they care about you know the kids yeah
but okay so you do the scholarship stuff
what else what else you doing for link
building I'd like my problem with
outreach I guess is always that I think
part of the problem was it like my site
at a certain point weren't like I felt
like it was just very mechanical like me
like because you explained it to me at
one point right like and it made sense
but at the same time I guess maybe I
just had like crappier sites so it like
the better of your site is obviously the
more effective it's going to be when you
contact someone so something I guess a
small thing this would be like you know
I need to contact people from like these
weird email addresses that weren't like
admin yeah so I'd be like I guess I was
like contact I'll be my outreach to you
like like screwball mm you know like
that would be at at like hotmail calm
and then I'd be like nobody responded to
me then like yeah I couldn't get that
couldn't figure I for some reason didn't
know how to set up the admin emails
correctly and so that was like when I
finally did that I'm like oh yeah it's
easy to set up an admin email like with
your hosting yeah but for something I
didn't know how to do it for a while I'm
like this just isn't working right but
so that did help like having a proper
e-mail address to like and it's so easy
to set up too right yeah um but for some
reason I just didn't like have it set up
properly and then yeah so then I guess
lately I've just felt more like it it's
more of an organic process for me just
in the sense of like I do a lot of
interviews for people like which I don't
think are the most time effective like
outreach methods to use like for me to
be like but I feel like it's more
enjoyable for me to to like actually
contact sure somebody and like go
through like it's like it can take up a
lot of time to like set up an interview
conduct an interview like make up fill
the post around an interview and then if
the payoff might not be as as big as
some other
things but for me it's just like it
makes sense to me so I do it that way
like that's generally just what I do
I gotcha so well and I think there's a
couple things I want to point out and
then I know we're we're coming up on the
end of time here we don't want to go on
forever maybe we'll do a second part if
people want to see a second part just
click like yeah
plus one or whatever it is to like it
say hey we love Dave we're going to see
them again blah blah blah okay so a
couple things to unpack there so it
sounds like you don't do much
link-building
right not to Mike I have a few other
methods but generally not too much cool
and that is a great answer because most
of the time people are like I got this
magic link-building method that you
really got to check it out and there's
this the only way to do it
blah blah blah but you're saying hey you
put out some content that's decent and
maybe you do these sort of longer really
hard to emulate and copy method and I
think that's awesome right so you are
you don't really like doing the outreach
like I told you like hey let's do some
outreach things you don't really like it
that's cool I don't like it that much
either to be honest we had it's kind of
tedious but occasionally I'll do it now
you you found something you like which
is to interview other bloggers so what
do you do you interview them you publish
it on your site and then you ask them to
link to it something like that yeah yeah
yeah essentially so like you're doing
like legit networking in the niche by
like talking to people like humans right
yeah yeah and the cool thing is it's
really hard for people to recreate that
like they would have to build a
relationship like if they checked out
your site again
how did Dave get that link to his site
because you talk to the person you spend
time getting to know um you went through
the whole song and dance and then
they're like kind of your friend online
right yeah yeah takes a it takes a while
but I find that it's just more just more
enjoyable I guess like versus other
methods that just seem to like because I
guess the thing is like my main forte is
like
I guess getting the content out there
and it does it does slow it down a bit
though when you like when I'm watching
the like my analytics or the search
console if I'm looking at like clings
I'm watching them like this trying to
get up up somewhere with a keyword and
I'm like well you know I haven't really
worked on that nip that specific part of
the site's too much like I might do some
outreach like it does like tend on the
kind of site here developing - I have a
lot of sites that are pretty broad so
it's like it just everything just takes
a long time like you're either in it for
a long the long haul or you're just like
you know you're not so like I'm in it
for the long haul so I don't really care
anymore I'm like you can't really yet
you know what I mean like it's like it
might as well take a long time does
everything take a long time yeah you you
said it well and I won't try to even
repeat it but I agree a hundred percent
I mean people are in a hurry it's just
not going to work out well for him yeah
well it's good for like a brief time but
it might be like this you know yeah I
just and that's like anything I guess
like so I mean I wish I still wish I
knew a few more like link-building
tricks that like I could relate to but I
think they just slowly creep in and like
those happen like I'm still like I know
there's a ton of them out there right
like there's a ton of different
techniques I guess I do I like the the
skyscraper method is that even a link
building technique well there's a
content from strategies yeah it's kind
of a like a content and then outreach so
if people aren't familiar this is like
the technique that Brian Dean sort of
coined the name skyscraper technique but
essentially you scour the internet for
like the best resources on a given topic
and then you write a better one by
consolidating and improving the
information and then you reach out the
people that linked up to those other
resources can like have them linked up
to yours
and it was really groundbreaking a few
years ago but at this point like
marketers ruined stuff so
before doing it and then you just end up
with a bunch of people that have already
gotten emails about this other great
post and it turns out like there's just
a lot of content so like what I've had
to do or what I've done and I published
a post on this age raft right so if you
publish a skyscraper article then you
can like do a guest posting campaign to
link to that article because it's really
good people won't bat an eyelash if you
you know link to a good content there's
a scatter perk but yeah and I find it
like even if like you do like just it
like on its own writing if you if you
are really interested in ranking for a
keyword and you like just do the best
article you can on it it generally does
like start beating other results like
because people will see like it has to
be clearly better you know like a lot of
keywords there there's still a lot of
keywords that they're just ranking
because Google is trying to organize the
Internet like there's no like there's no
these aren't good articles or anything
like so there's a lot of the things
there's still a lot of like opportunity
just just to do a good job and still and
that'll do like most of the heavy
lifting for you yeah like and as you
share with somebody they're gonna be
like holy why did you like try so
hard on this like I don't know like
don't like I'm trying to rank for a
keyword or anything like that funny so
ok a call to the audience right now so
if you're watching this I appreciate you
sticking in for you know 35 plus minutes
if you have questions for Dave write
them in the comments please and maybe we
do a second round maybe I come back and
I answer the questions and Dave oh yeah
a little bit but maybe we do another
round of this because I think there's a
lot of cool information here so ah
that's a call to the audience and Dave
from you if you were giving some people
in did like advice on just getting
started
what would you what would you tell maybe
they don't have a niche site yet but
they're thinking they want to start one
right well I mean if you're trying to do
it to make like a lot of people that I
talk to are trying to get out of like
a shitty financial situation and it's
like okay well if you're going to do it
for that reason then make sure you
adhere to all of the things to make it
successful like financially successful
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