Top Podcasting Tips & Tools for Recording, Interviews & Exporting (PART 2) #Best Education Page #Online Earning

Hey, what's up, guys.

It's Pat Flynn here, and, you know,

I've recorded over a thousand podcast episodes,

conducted hundreds of interviews.

I'm excited to share with you today in this video

some of my best and favorite tips.

We're gonna talk about recording your episodes.

We're gonna talk about interviews.

We're actually gonna dive into the editing software.

I'm gonna show you different kinds of episodes

you can create and how they're structured,

and then finally, I'm gonna show you how to export

an MP3 file and tag it properly in a way

such that it has all the right information in it

for the person listening on the other end.

All right, you ready to get started?

All right, let's start with tip number one.

When I first started podcasting, I thought that

when you recorded a podcast episode, you had to record it

all in one full swoop, meaning just one take.

And I would get frustrated.

Every time I made a mistake,

I would go back to the beginning

and re-record everything over and over and over again,

and over time, it would get longer and longer,

the amount I could go without actually making a mistake,

but I eventually found out the secret.

You don't have to record everything all in one take.

You can and you should be stopping at certain points,

going back and redoing something if you feel like you

can do it better, and at the end, your podcast episodes

are gonna look like a bunch of pieces all put together.

So don't try and be one-take Jake,

'cause that is very difficult and unusual.

All right, tip number two, you don't have to script

your entire podcast episode either.

I actually used to do that too, because I was so scared

that I was gonna miss something.

I wanted to make sure I structured my episodes

and said everything I wanted to say in the perfect way,

but what ended up happening was a lot of those episodes

that I scripted out word-for-word kind of didn't

sound like they had a lot of personality in them,

and you can make sense of that

when you start to read your own stuff.

My best tip for you

is to actually just outline your episode.

Start with the end in mind, the transformation.

What is it that you're trying to teach

or share with this audience member of yours,

and then work backwards from there,

listing the examples, the case studies,

the stories that you wanna tell,

the facts, all those kinds of things.

You don't have to and you should not script everything out.

Trust yourself to use that outline to be able

to tell stories in a way similar to if you were

to just go to a cafe and talk to a friend.

All right, tip number three,

and this relates to microphone placement.

So, a couple of things here.

You need to know that your mouth needs to stay

in generally the same position at the same time.

Now, you obviously wanna talk naturally, too,

and this can be a little bit tricky for some of you,

but you wanna make sure that your mouth

is pointing in the same direction the whole time.

And trust me, it's so easy to forget

that you need to do this,

because we often move our heads around,

especially when we're talking,

especially during an interview,

but always try to make sure that your mouth

is pointed in the same direction.

You also wanna make sure the distance from your mouth

to the microphone remains the same too.

One trick that I like to use,

especially on this particular microphone,

is I like to have basically the tip of my nose

touching the windscreen, 'cause that allows

for that deep, resonant voice, whether you're a man

or a woman, to come through and make it sound

very natural and soothing sounding.

So try to stay as close as you can to the microphone,

and obviously check your levels when you're recording.

Run some test recordings

to make sure you're in the right spot,

but generally speaking, mouth always facing the microphone,

and always having it be the same distance from the mic.

All right, tip number four, and this is a quick one,

make sure you remove all distractions

when you're recording your podcast episodes.

This means turning off your phone, making it silent,

or turning off the notifications on your desktop,

or closing the door, obviously.

Or if you have kids or people around the house,

let them know that you're recording

and not to distract you during that time.

One of the worst things that can happen

is obviously losing your flow,

because when you're in a podcast episode,

you're often in the state of mind where things are flowing,

things are going really well.

When you get distracted, it can throw you off.

So remove those distractions as much as possible,

and just, you know, make sure that becomes a habit for you.

All right, and tip number five, the final one for now.

I'll give you some more tips related to interviews

specifically once I show you how to conduct an interview,

because it's a whole different beast.

But the last one is, no matter what kind of episode it is,

make sure that you create some sort of hook

in the beginning of that episode.

Because, you know, kind of like with a website

or with a YouTube video, you know,

people watch that or they read it,

and then if they're not interested right away,

they're gonna click away or exit right away, right?

Same thing with your podcast.

Although you have a little bit more time,

you have about 20 to 30 seconds to really convince

a listener that they should stick around.

I mean, that magic moment is when they take

that device of theirs and they put it in their pocket.

They're saying to themselves, yes,

I commit to listening to this episode.

You want that, and the best way to get that is to actually

give them something that they can look forward to.

So, whenever possible, especially in the beginning

or the introductions of your episodes, tell 'em

what they're gonna get and why they should stick around.

Now, when it comes to creating content

for your podcast episodes, some of those episodes

may lend itself to just be you.

Have it be a solo episode where you're chatting

with that audience on the other side.

Other times, it might make sense for you

to have an interview type of episode,

where you have a guest or number of guests on your show.

And this is beneficial for a lot of reasons.

Number one, a person might have an expertise

that you are able to share with your audience

through that interview when it's an expertise

that you might not have yourself.

Number two, guess what?

You get to have a lengthy conversation with somebody,

perhaps somebody who you look up to in your space

that allows you to start building

a relationship with them at the same time.

And number three, now you're associated with that person,

which means if a listener comes through and sees

that you have this connection with this other person,

I mean, that means a lot.

Now, in order to capture an interview,

I'm not gonna go into the details of how to do all

the interview process, scheduling, all that kind of stuff.

A lot of that's common sense.

I also talk a lot more about it in my premium course,

Power-Up Podcasting, but for now,

I'm gonna give you a quick rundown

of how to capture an interview using Skype.

Skype is a free tools that you can download online

that allows you to do audio and/or video chats

with other people, even messaging as well.

But using some third-party tools, you can actually

capture those things, take those MP3 files,

and just drop 'em right into your editor.

If you're on a Mac, likely, you'd wanna use

Call Recorder for Mac by the Ecamm network,

and then if you're on a PC,

you'd wanna use either Pamela for Skype or Amolto,

which a lot of people are using now too.

And obviously links for all of these things

are below this video.

All right, so really quick, I'm gonna show you how

to record an interview on Skype using Call Recorder for Mac,

and then we'll get into some interview tips after that.

Okay, so here we are on Skype,

and a few things you wanna do.

First, make sure you follow this account here,

the Skype name echo123.

This is a robot test call tool that Skype provides you.

So that's echo123.

We're gonna record a conversation with this person

in just a moment to show you how easy this is to do.

Secondly, after you install Call Recorder for Mac,

for example, if you go to View up here and click

Call Recorder, you'll see the Call Recorder pop up.

And simply, you click on this red button

to record the conversation.

It'll record the audio on my end, and it'll record

the audio on the other person's end, too, at the same time.

Now, as you can see, it is grayed out, and that's

because we are not initiated in a call right now.

It'll only initiate and be able to be clicked on

after we're on a call.

So, let's go into that Skype call,

and let's actually test this out.

So I'm gonna click this button here to call

the Echo/Sound Test Service, and then I'm gonna hit Record,

and I'm also going to speak so that we can capture that,

and then I'll show you where that file

ends up and what to do with it.

- [Skype] Hello, welcome to Skype Call Testing Service.

After the beep, please record a message.

Afterwards, your message will be played back to you.

(bell dings)

- Hey, Skype.

This is Pat Flynn here.

Welcome to the Smart Passive Income Podcast.

Woohoo, yeah.

(bell dings)

Hey, Skype.

This is Pat Flynn here.

Welcome to the Smart Passive Income Podcast.

Woo.

(bell dings)

- [Skype] If you are able to hear your own voice,

then you have configured Skype correctly.

If you hear this message but not your own voice,

then something is wrong with your audio recording settings.

Please check your microphone and microphone settings

or visit skype.com for more help.

Thank you for using the Skype Call Testing Service.

- All right, so there we go.

I close the conversation, and that recording ended,

and we're gonna go find it really quick.

But briefly, she mentioned that you can check

your preferences for Skype if your mic is not hooked up.

And to do that, all you have to do is go to Skype

and then Audio and Video Settings.

If that setting is not there, just go to Preferences.

It's likely in there instead.

And now you can see my camera.

So my camera's working, which is great.

Good to see you guys.

And then Microphone, as you can see, is the built-in mic,

and we did that for the purposes of the demo.

If I wanted to do a real podcast, I would hit this

and select the ATR USB microphone.

So that's how you would make sure

that you have the correct mic.

Now, let's go find that podcast episode,

or excuse me, that interview that we just,

quote, recorded there with that test sound service.

So, if you actually click on this Finder icon

or this magnifying glass here,

that'll actually open up a list of your

previously-recorded episodes here or interviews.

And if you click on this, and you can actually play it

and preview it here.

- [Skype] Service.

After the beep, please.

- So you can do that.

Now, you're hearing a little bit of echo with mine there

because I didn't have headphones on.

It's always best to kind of have headphones in

when you're recording so that your microphone

doesn't pick up what the speakers are putting out.

So that way it's in your ear.

There's no echo.

I'm not gonna play it in here, because there is an echo.

But, here's what you would do from here.

You go to Export As > MP3, and then click Export,

and then you can save it wherever you'd like.

Save it as the best quality, and it's gonna be something

that you can easily drag and drop into your editor

for your interview shows.

Cool?

All right.

Now, really quick, three simple tips to help you increase

the likelihood of having a great interview.

Number one, make sure that you and the person

you're interviewing are both on the same page,

meaning when that interview's gonna happen,

where does it happen, what are your Skype usernames

together, and what is it gonna be about?

Also, make that person feel really comfortable

when they get on with you.

That way, the interview just goes that much smoother.

All right, tip number two, as much as you might wanna

write down questions beforehand, which you can,

my top recommendation is to don't always stick with them,

and see how deep you can go.

A lot of those questions that you might ask initially

are just surface-level questions.

The gold lies deep down below.

So, continue to ask questions like why

or how come you felt like that

or what was going through your head at that time.

Try to pull stories out of that person too.

That's how you get into the golden, great information

that your audience is gonna really enjoy.

And then finally, overall, the third and best tip

I can offer you as an interviewer is be genuinely curious.

Yes, you're gonna have to listen, obviously,

but it can be very difficult to listen,

because you're gonna want to make sure

you ask the right follow-up question,

or you might be keeping track of notes or certain things.

But when you are genuinely curious,

when you approach your interviews as that,

nothing can go wrong, because you are putting yourselves

in the shoes of those who are listening.

You are collecting information.

You are learning about that person, and you're getting

valuable information that your audience will benefit from.

Okay, so to finish up this video, a really, really

important step here, and that is taking your file, right,

after it's completed, after you've got all the pieces

in there, the music, the interview, intros, outros,

call to actions, all those necessary things,

once that's ready to go,

well, what do we do next?

Well, we have to export it,

take it from our editing software into an MP3 file.

But then we need to take the MP3 file and add a little bit

of data behind it to make sure that the information

in that file matches what it should be so that

when a person listens to it on the other end,

it's exactly the way it needs to be.

So, let's dive right into the editing software right now.

I'm using GarageBand.

There's like a made-up episode that I just put together

for you for the demonstration purposes here,

and then we'll export it, then we'll tag it,

and then we'll be done for today.

All right, so here we are in GarageBand.

We have this made-up episode here.

As you can see, this is my track here

with the intro and outro.

There's like a middle piece here for the interview, and then

there's music on either sides to kind of cap things off.

Now, at this point, what we wanna do is export.

And to do that, quite simply,

we just go to the Share area in the menu item

and then click Export Song to Disk.

And what we wanna do is make sure this is an MP3 file.

So we're gonna click on MP3 file, and in terms of quality,

there's a number of different selections here.

There's a low quality,

medium quality, high, and then highest.

The higher you go, the bigger the file size is gonna be,

but the lower you go, the lower the quality

of that episode is going to be as well.

High quality or medium quality will work just fine,

and because we want the highest quality possible,

that makes sense.

Just click on High Quality (192 kBits/s),

but don't worry about highest quality.

That's too much.

That's for like, music production.

High Quality will work just fine.

And then what you do is you can name it.

You can name it the episode number,

if you have episode numbers, or the name of that episode,

or the guest that you might have, for example.

It's nice that they include this timestamp here

for you automatically so that you just know

when you exported this one.

So I'm just gonna keep it as Test Episode and hit Export,

and it should take just a moment.

Obviously it's gonna take a little bit longer,

depending on the size of your episode.

And boom, we're done.

It is converted now to an MP3.

So let's go and find it.

All right, so I found it here in this Test Episode folder.

Now, hopefully, you can have your own file management system

in your computer that has different episode numbers and just

makes it easy for you to find these kinds of things.

So this is Test Episode.

This is the GarageBand project file,

and this is the MP3 file that we just created.

And if we were to play that, it would play properly,

but, as you can see, it uses just the default logo there

because we don't have artwork put into it yet,

nor do we have any information related about this episode

that would play on the other end.

If a person plays this on their device,

it would literally say test-episode-1/9/18, 3:35 PM.

And that's not what we want.

We wanna put the proper metadata behind it.

In other words, we wanna tag this thing.

So, how do we do that?

There's a number of third-party tools

that you can use to add tags to your file.

You can also do it within your podcast host,

which we'll talk about in the next episode,

but I wouldn't recommend doing that.

I would recommend just doing it

on the file itself using iTunes.

And the reason I like doing it on iTunes is A,

because it's very simple, and B, you can get a sense

for what it's already gonna look like as you go along.

So I'm just gonna open up iTunes right here,

and in my library, I'm gonna create a new playlist

just to house these episodes

that I create and build over time.

So, I'm gonna click New Playlist,

and just do Podcast Episode.

I can't speak and type at the same time.

There we go.

And now what I'm going to do is drag this over

and literally just drag and drop this test episode,

the MP3 file, not the GarageBand file, into that playlist.

Now, here it is.

So let me expand this really quick

so we can get more view there.

Okay, so now we have that podcast episode.

As you can see, it's Test-Episode with the date

and the time, and it has the default image file, and this is

all the information that's in this file right now.

So let's change that.

To do that, you can right-click and click on Song Info.

And as you can see here, now we have a number of fields.

Artist, Album, Album Artist, Composer,

Grouping, Genre.

But hey, wait.

We didn't create a song; we created a podcast.

So we have to change that first.

First thing we wanna do is go to Options,

and then change the media kind from Music to Podcast.

This changes the menu items up here.

Now if we go to Details, for example, you'll see

that this has changed.

So title here is the title of this podcast episode.

So Podcast Episode Title Goes Here.

The author, this is you, the host.

This should be the same as what you're eventually

gonna put into your, your media provider,

which we'll talk about, your media host,

which we'll talk about in the next video.

So, Same as Media Host.

Then, podcast, this is the title of your podcast,

so your Podcast Title Goes Here.

Your release date.

This is the date that this is going to be published,

if you know that already.

If not, that's okay.

Genre, that's something

that doesn't have to be filled out either.

Runtime, as you can see, that automatically populates.

And then simply to add your artwork,

just click on Add Artwork.

You're gonna find your file, and then it'll be

included and essentially embedded in that episode.

Boom, and now the artwork is in there for my podcast.

And when I click OK, it's going to show that artwork there.

But we're not ready to click OK yet.

I'm gonna click on Description,

and this is where we add a little bit of a description

of what this episode is about.

Not your show, but what this particular episode is about.

And you can have it as long or as short as you want.

In some applications, they truncate this,

so don't spend too much time on this,

but you do wanna make sure that when a person reads this,

that they are enticed to go and listen to it.

So, I'm just gonna put Description for EPISODE goes here.

Then I'm gonna hit OK.

Whoa, whoa, what happened?

Our playlist disappeared.

Well, it didn't disappear; it just moved,

because remember, we switched from Music to Podcast,

and we are in the Music library right now.

You're seeing music from the movie Frozen

and a TV show called Happy Endings.

We need to go to the Podcast library.

So to do that, just go to the dropdown menu here.

Music, Podcasts.

Now, after this, you won't ever have to change it anymore.

But, as you can see, there's our episode.

You can see the title of our episode,

Podcast Episode Titles Go Here.

You - Host (Same as Media Host).

Podcast Title Goes Here.

But, where's our artwork?

Well, it's not necessarily gone.

It doesn't often show here right away.

But if we were to click Play on this,

it should show up here at the top,

and that's how we know it's connected.

So let's press play.

(upbeat techno music)

Check, check, one two.

This is Pat Flynn.

Yep, we're okay, 'cause see, there's the logo up there,

and it played that funky music

which was what we just use for demonstration purposes.

And all is good to go.

So now our file is ready for the world.

All right, and final step here related to this

podcast episode that we just tagged, we wanna take

this tagged file and put it back into our folder.

That way, we know that that's the final one that is tagged.

So we're actually going to click on that here at iTunes,

drag and drop it over to our folder,

and then just one thing I like to do

is just click on here and add the words FINAL at the end.

And that's how we know that that's the file

that we should be uploading to our media host.

All right, great job.

In the next video, you're gonna learn a few things

such as how to get set up with a media host,

properly get your show ready for the world,

also distribute your show on directories like iTunes,

Stitcher, and Google Play.

We'll also get into, well, how much does a website play

a role in all this and also show notes and what that means.

All right, and really quick before you go,

I have a gift for you,

and that is the Podcast Cheat Sheet.

You can get it for free using one of the links

in the description below.

What it does is it helps you just make sure

that you have all the pieces into place

to help you get your show up and running.

It also has a checklist to go from nowhere

to a podcast up and running on iTunes, and also,

to make sure that you are creating the right kinds

of content and can plan properly ahead to just do

a great job with your podcast.

So I'm excited for you.

You can get that link ago below in the description

for the Podcast Cheat Sheet, and if you're ready,

just head on over to day three

and we'll finish this off with a bang.

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