Macs are SLOWER than PCs. #Helpful Post

C fanboys love to complain that Mac's

are just so much more expensive than a

PC but as we've demonstrated a handful

of times in the past in many cases it's

actually just as expensive to custom

build a PC with the same specs and

features as a given Mac the problem

though is that Mac's often don't perform

as you would expect given their

specifications so today's video is a

deep dive into what's going on and why

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now as you probably already know Apple

designs their own computers and when I

say designs

I mean designs they're slim they're

lightweight and they've got specs that

make your eyes light up and go ooh but

in the pursuit of sex appeal they often

don't do those sometimes very impressive

specs justice the reason

thermals now this is a little bit

strange for reasons that we'll get into

more later but watch this I can fire up

quite literally any stress test

this is prime95 right here and within

moments I will have temperatures rapidly

approaching a hundred degrees the point

at which most Intel CPUs will throttle

back their clock speeds in order to

protect themselves from damage how can

they get away with this well apples done

a little bit of trickery here and

adjusted the voltage and fan curves in

Mac OS so that they can hit a higher

thermal threshold without throttling too

far below intel's advertised base clock

but even at room temperature it's on a

knife set and in boot camp those tweaks

gets thrown out the windows pun intended

which means the voltages are higher and

the threshold for throttling triggers

sooner making for a sluggish mess of an

experience overall this actually made

waves back when the 2018 MacBook Pro

launched because Apple accidentally

didn't have those tweaks enabled in Mac

OS meaning that the core i9 equipped

model throttled well below base clock at

a hundred degrees now they promptly

fixed it but is it fixed or is it just

software trickery to mask a bad design

to find out we designed a little test

we compared the MacBook Pro 2018 and the

Mac Mini

running the blender classroom rendering

test using their stock cooling solutions

at room temperature against the exact

same two machines inside a custom chill

box of our own creation that we held

well below ambient temperatures

and what's obvious from our test is that

in Apple's pursuit of sex appeal they're

leaving a significant amount of

performance on the table for their users

now the obvious retort might be yeah but

that's a totally unrealistic scenario

would a laptop PC achieved these results

and in fairness the answer in many cases

is no most notebooks PC and Mac alike

with Intel age K series chips thermal

throttle but many of them to a lesser

degree part of the problem boils down to

intel's delays in getting their 10

nanometer production going and this is

compounded by their recent pattern of

releasing processors with TDP s so this

is the amount of heat that they're

supposed to output that are SPECT much

lower than they actually should be

they've even done this with some of

their desktop processors essentially

what they're doing right now then is

stuffing more and more cores into the

same package size as before but with the

same transistor size meaning that

they're generating more heat that means

that the only way for a manufacturer to

rein in these chips is to test them

themselves then over build their cooling

solution which clearly can actually be

done it's just that Apple isn't doing it

and the thing is that even if you don't

care about getting every last drop of

performance out of your computer

this creates all their problems to a

computer any computer for a fact will

fail more quickly when subjected to

higher operating temperatures over its

lifetime and this can come about in a

whole host of different ways just ask

Louis Rossman or for that matter anyone

who's owned a 2011 or 2012 MacBook Pro

with a dedicated GPU not only is heat

bad for the chips themselves the ones

producing it it's actually also

unhealthy for the board that they're

attached to hot spots on a PCB can and

will cause flexing and warping as the

materials repeatedly expand and contract

which can

turn lead to BGA components breaking

away from their solder pads and that's

to say nothing of the health of any

surface mount components nearby like

capacitors or resistors all of which

would require either a time-consuming

repair or if you go the official route a

costly and wasteful replacement of the

entire board

so then what gives why would Apple do

this to their hardware well when it

comes to the performance question it

seems to be because for a large enough

of proportion of their customers the

looks and the status symbol of owning

the machine are just more important than

whether it's actually quick off the line

although on that note one innovation in

recent CPU designs that has masked

apples negligence is the advent of turbo

boost Intel's name for a technology that

dramatically boosts the clock speed of a

CPU temporarily during short bursts of

activity like while loading a webpage or

launching an application turbo boost

allows machines like their 2015 MacBook

to actually feel pretty snappy in day to

day use but require literal water

cooling to reach peak performance in

heavy workloads as for the reliability

issues honestly my best guess is that

they just don't care I'm sure like any

insurance company they've done the

analysis of their failure rates over

time to ensure that Apple Care customers

are covered by the policy that they

bought and then as for the ones who

didn't buy Apple Care but guess you

should have bought Apple Care it's not

like you can take your business

somewhere else if you want Mac OS the

real head-scratcher here for me though

is that Apple considers it okay for even

their professional-grade computers to

throttle like this but not for their

flagship iPhone you can run games or

benchmarks all day long on this thing

and never lose any performance to heat

compare that to competing Android

handsets and you've got yourself

actually a very compelling reason to buy

an iPhone so why this difference in

philosophy

oh sorry oh you were waiting for an

answer I actually don't have one but

what I will do is I'm gonna put that on

my list of things to ask my good friend

Tim Apple if he ever agrees to sit down

for an interview with me although I

sincerely doubt that's ever going to

happen because I'm going on the record

now saying that my next question then

will be why do you advertise your

products in ways that you know for a

fact are misleading the 2018 MacBook

Pros product page is a great example of

this so you can see 4.8 gigahertz touted

as the cpu speed up front but you

probably won't notice that further down

the base clock that this machine

struggles to maintain by the way is just

2.9 gigahertz a difference of almost 40%

that performance disparity is gonna take

the MacBook Pro from feeling quick and

snappy while surfing the web to feeling

sluggish and unresponsive the moment

that you start a render and it stops

boosting and that's not even considering

the dedicated GPU you run both the CPU

and the GPU simultaneously like in a

game or a hardware assisted video export

and you're in for a pretty bad time one

of the most frustrating aspects of all

of this is that they're blatantly doing

it on purpose in our recent video where

we used liquid metal thermal interface

material on the MacBook Pro we found

that even with better cooling

temperatures were the same so Apple took

advantage of the extra thermal Headroom

by keeping the fans low for as long as

possible instead of attempting to boost

the CPUs performance for longer I mean I

get it nobody wants their fans to ramp

up like a jet engine just because they

loaded a big file in Photoshop that made

the CPU work for five seconds but if

we're running an all core load we're

hitting 90 plus degrees for more than

that the system needs to kick its fans

into overdrive in order to protect

itself

as for why Apple doesn't just equip its

machines with processors that are more

suited to the form factors that they

target remember guys a slower CPU that

doesn't throttle is not slower than a

faster one that does we're not sure why

they don't do that

the only answer we can come up with is

low marketing but whatever the real

reason is the conclusion is clear here

Apple is specifically targeting the less

tech-savvy market with their promises of

magical high performance thin design

lightweight and low noise all with

stellar battery life but you simply

can't avoid the laws of physics and

there is nothing magical about what

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